[CNBCfix Fast Money Review Archive — May 2017]
[Wednesday, May 31, 2017]
For 4th day in a row, Judge mentions Robert Shiller’s
‘50%’ call
In an unexpected clunker, Judge brought Marc Faber to the set of Wednesday's Halftime.
Whatever Faber said about the stock market, who cares.
Faber seems like a nice guy; we wish him well, but like all his other market commentary, this interview was downright embarrassing, a colossal waste of time (and no ads for 29 minutes somehow) and potential ad revenue, particularly a day after a crisp, impressive go-round with Lee Cooperman.
Incredibly, Judge mentioned Robert Shiller's supposed "50%" call again.
Meanwhile, panelists took halfhearted cracks at AMZN-vs.-NFLX. "I think the growth is still there with Netflix," Jon Najarian said.
Joe Terranova said "the better buy is Amazon" over Netflix. Judge for some reason asked him again at the end of the conversation.
Kevin O'Leary questioned how much profit Netflix can get from content; "they're getting into a business that has a very crappy return long term."
Kari Firestone picked AMZN over NFLX.
Steve Weiss said he owns NFLX. "Netflix has a more reasonable valuation than Amazon does," Weiss said, adding, "At some point, Amazon's really gotta worry about antitrust concerns."
Kevin O'Leary again slammed banks and said "you all owe me an apology today." Doc though touted V and MA. Kari Firestone suggested banks will start to outperform again. O'Leary scoffed that financials are "a dog in the making."
Anthony Grisanti said if gasoline doesn't pick up, crude hits 45 before 55. Scott Nations said crude is in a range.
Kari Firestone's final trade was AGN. Weiss said bonds will trade down.
[Tuesday, May 30, 2017]
Lee Cooperman ‘would’ve
accepted’ the same offer
from the get-go
First things first:
Judge got the interview; no one else on CNBC did. That's significant.
Early on Tuesday's Halftime Report, Lee Cooperman said, "I've entered into what's called a no-admit, no-deny settlement, which prohibits me from commenting on the government's allegations or the strength of my defenses. I believe that the outcome speaks for itself, um, and I'll leave it at that."
But he didn't actually "leave it at that."
In 20 minutes of conversation about his recently concluded SEC case, Cooperman repeatedly 1) questioned why the SEC offer changed after 7 months and 2) mentioned how much he gives to charity.
Judge asked if Lee worries that some people may "think that you're guilty that you did something wrong, because you settled."
Lee said, "There's always that possibility," but, "You know, you get emails, tons and tons of emails, and most of 'em are congratulatory."
Judge made 2 mistakes (we'll get to those later) in an otherwise stellar interview; one question he didn't ask … and it would've been a toughie, would've made us cringe even … is whether Cooperman actually thinks he got off easy.
Because Lee admitted, "If they asked me initially for the final ask, I would've accepted it knowing it would've saved my business."
That's interesting. So this person who was vowing a fight in September characterized as a "no-holds barred legal battle" now says he would've settled immediately with a $4.9 million fine and a trading monitor.
The only time Cooperman interrupted Judge was when Judge asked, "Had you been banned; you mentioned they, they were seeking at first a 5-year ban-."
Coop said, "The biggest question you should ask and get the SEC to sit here and ask it- answer it, I can't answer it. What happened in the 7 months between your original ask, where you said 5-year bar, admit you're- effectively admit you're guilty, give us $9 million, OK, to, uh, no admit, no deny, give us 4.9 million, and no ban. What did they learn? Now I have some theories, which I'm not at liberty to discuss. But what did they learn?"
Well, we can answer that. 1) Nobody including prosecutors opens with their best offer; 2) The SEC might've deemed the ongoing headwind to Omega's AUM a suitable punishment, and 3) There was a change in presidential administrations during the timeline of this case which might've affected the office's perception of it.
It's possible the presidential election might've been the best thing that happened to Cooperman.
As in his previous Halftime appearance on this subject, Cooperman complained about being subjected to this case — and this time, how the SEC characterized it.
"The SEC person who got quoted that Friday is disgraceful," Cooperman said. "I didn't admit to any guilt. I didn't- I didn't say I denied guilt, I didn't admit to guilt. So what is she saying; she left out the word 'alleged.'"
Honestly, we're not sure how else the SEC should describe it. "We don't really think there was wrongdoing here; we're glad he paid a fine for nothing"??
"The process was extraordinarily abusive," Cooperman said, adding his business was affected "dramatically, way out of proportion to what was, uh, reasonable."
Nevertheless, he indicated he's been getting favorable treatment in the media. "I could tell you, all the stuff I've read has been highly favorable," Cooperman claimed.
Lee said he was once advised not to fight wars with the press and how he probably shouldn't fight wars with his regulators. "Donald Trump is you know crappin' all over the press, fake news, this and that, and then he wonders why the press treats him like he's been treated," Cooperman said, but he feels it's "incumbent" on him to speak out.
"Why did they change what they asked for over a period of 7 months," Cooperman asked again — and then he suggested the SEC isn't about justice … but resume-building.
"And I think what they- the game plan these people play with the SEC and other regulatory bodies frankly is bring down a guy with a reputation, get a notch on your belt, and take that notch and get a job in the private sector making a million dollars a year as a defense attorney," Lee said.
He suggested Hank Greenberg was also abused by the system. "He spent $100 million dealing with this problem," Lee said.
As before, he referred to the giving pledge. "As you know, my money is earmarked for charity. I've taken the Giving Pledge with Mr. Buffett and Bill Gates," Cooperman said.
"We lost $4 billion of client assets," Cooperman added.
Judge noted Goldman Sachs pulled money from Cooperman. "Did it hurt? I was disappointed, but, uh, they again were advised by fiduciaries, and they felt they did what they had to do," Cooperman said. "I'm not bitter, I mean, uh, they did what they thought they had to do."
Lee indicated that no matter the redemptions, he's got money to invest. "It's like a glorified family office," Lee said.
He also said his lawyer "really cared about me" and "focused on me." That's impressive, that a lawyer was "focused on" and "really cared about" the person who is most likely the wealthiest client he'll ever have.
Judge made a couple mistakes. He said in the intro that Cooperman was "settling insider-trading charges with the SEC," which is true. But he never told viewers what those charges were or that the case (discussed on Fast Money last September with a New York Times reporter) included "family drama" involving a son and a grandson.
Judge opened with, "When you were here earlier in the year, you made it clear you had no intention of settling this case. … Why did you settle."
But in fact, as this page observed after the Jan. 5 interview, Cooperman did vow to fight the case but also let slip, "I'm here ready to cooperate and present a case."
And when someone says "cooperate," that means he/she is open to a deal. So the idea of "no intention" is absolutely bogus.
In fact, if Judge actually believed his own opening question, he would've turned the tables on Lee and asked, "You question why the SEC changed its offer after 7 months, but why did you change your willingness to settle over the same time period?"
Anyway, Cooperman actually told Wapner, "Well, uh, it's very simple. My lawyers told me that, uh, the probability of my winning would be overwhelmingly high, and if I didn't win, it had nothing to do with the merits of the case. It would have to do with the fact that uh I'm a former Goldman partner, I'm a hedge fund manager, I'm wealthy, and those are (unclear) factoids and impress juries. Um, and, uh, that the cost of a trial would be probably 15 to 20 million dollars and go on for a couple years, because if we did win, uh, we would likely see appeals."
So he was worried about the cost of appeals after winning. (He also said on Jan. 5 that the legal battle would cost "probably a hundred million dollars," not $15-$20 million.)
OK. Reviewing television, it's sort of this page's chosen responsibility to determine what this person was saying.
We don't know anything about the merits of the case, who would've won or who should've won. If there was a big witchhunt in progress, and a bunch of young regulatory lawyers looking to get notches on their belts with bogus prosecutions, then we'd see far more cases like this. (Name another one.) (At SAC, people were convicted.)
Cooperman's charity statements have always been the weakest part of his argument. Giving money, however noble or generous, doesn't put one above the law, and it has nothing to do with Atlas Pipeline Partners. Despite this SEC case, according to the New York Times, Cooperman managed to make $225 million last year. Unfortunately his lawyers failed to persuade him to stop blaming the SEC for preventing kids from going to college.
We don't know what happened. We don't know if he did anything wrong. We do know that Leon Cooperman settled a case he vowed to fight. We also know the government's punishment is seen as relatively light and that the New York Times suggested Cooperman is the "victor" here. He says he's not allowed to deny the allegations. The guess here is that, in his late 60s at the time, he got careless.
Lee Cooperman mistakenly suggests an effect is a cause
Lee Cooperman said something on Tuesday's Halftime that should really make viewers cringe — and it had nothing to do with the SEC.
Stressing the importance of a college education, Cooperman stated, "The lifetime earnings of a college graduate is in excess of a million dollars more than a non-college graduate."
Sure.
Because the world's highest-earning people tend to go to college.
Not because college turns Average Joes into high-net-worth individuals.
Being a doctor or lawyer requires going to college. Being a financier virtually does.
Founding a unicorn does not. Trading real estate does not. Does anyone think the president of the United States went to Princeton to learn how to build hotels?
Cooperman: Paul Singer doing a ‘good job’ of warning investors for the last 5 years
Judge on Tuesday's Halftime showed a graphic depicting Robert Shiller and Jeremy Siegel in the bullish camp and Paul Singer and Seth Klarman in the pessismistic camp and asked Lee Cooperman for his thoughts.
Lee called Singer a "brilliant, brilliant man who's been bearish for 5 years … I think Paul is doing a good job of warning people, and uh, but he's been warning people for a lot of years."
"I think the market for now is fully priced," Lee said.
"We're heading back to normalization," he added.
Cooperman told Joe Terranova, "What is likely to end this, would be a big turnaround in energy prices, tightening labor market, an escalation of labor costs."
Cooperman's top picks include energy names NBR, WPX, FRAC and HES.
He also likes DOW, though he referred to "Dan (sic) Breen."
Lee said he bought UAL "in decline" and indicated that settlements are no big deal. "They made a mistake; they handled something poorly; you know, they settled," he said. "It is what it is."
Scott Nations and Brian Stutland said the gasoline chart looks a lot better than oil.
The Najarii hardly had to talk.
Judge asks Lee Cooperman
about Robert Shiller’s ‘call’
Judge conducted a remarkable interview with Lee Cooperman on Tuesday's Halftime, which this page will tackle soon.
Amazingly, however, despite a crisp performance, Judge actually asked Cooperman about Robert Shiller's loopy interview last week that no one else is taking seriously.
"I caught that … be very careful," Cooperman said. "He threw out a number, and then he backtracked, and it was in terms of years."
We'll put it another way: That Shiller put out a report to attract attention only to say on TV he doesn't really believe in anything.
All he said on TV was that the CAPE ratio is not as overcooked as late 1999 and that a corporate tax cut to 15% (snicker) would propel stocks.
Honestly, we're surprised this interview has even been mentioned since the day it happened.
Much more from Tuesday's Halftime later.
[Friday, May 26, 2017]
Jeremy Siegel emails Bob Shiller, discusses definition of ‘could’
Like a bad trade, he's unable to let it go.
For yet another day, Judge somehow mentioned Robert Shiller's Wednesday interview at the top of Friday's Halftime before welcoming on Jeremy Siegel.
This despite the fact Shiller said absolutely nothing, claimed his whole assessment was basically nothing but that any number of outcomes could happen, acted like he didn't want to talk about it, and oh by the way, every other CNBCer taking part deemed it irrelevant.
Why Judge doesn't regard this the same way (sigh), we have no clue, except it was his interview, and he can't find anyone else with a more constructive opinion on the stock market.
Siegel revealed, "I emailed Bob; I said, 'Are you bullish?' He said, 'Well, I said, It could go up 50%. It could go down 50%.' I mean the word 'could' does not really mean that that's what he expects."
OK. So we're still not sure whether Shiller, despite Judge hyping this laughable interview, is even bullish. (And whether the 50% is over 10 years or between now and 10 years, etc.)
Siegel said "the momentum is there" in stocks and for those worried about overheating, the P.E. of the tech sector for 2017 is under 20.
Siegel said, in contrast to Paul Singer's caution, the S&P was at 30 times earnings in 1999 while we're at 20 now, "and in a much lower interest-rate environment."
But he did offer a bit of caution. "There are a lot of momentum players in this market," Siegel said. "Momentum is surging as a factor."
Fair enough. The point is, which no one really has the brass to say, this market for the first time in a dozen years, maybe since 1999 actually, is exciting, it's the place to be, it's like the 1980s again, and it won't always go up, but you've gotta be there regardless.
Grandpa Jim Lebenthal asked Siegel, "If this market breaks to the downside," won't growth investors look at value as a "metric." Siegel agreed they will go to those value stocks.
Jim suggested if AMZN is down 4 days in a row, "all of a sudden, people are gonna get queasy." Then people who sell will decide, "Hey valuation matters, let's look at some attractively priced stock" (snicker) (double snicker).
Josh Brown though said there could be a "big gap" between when the value stocks start to climb after the market meltdown. Brown also said the market doesn't have to crash but could just stagnate for a while.
Josh shrugged that the argument about only a few stocks carrying the market is a "forever thing."
Jon Najarian said he doesn't see the "steam" that would indicate an overheated market.
Judge said at the opening that the "top trade" for Friday's show is whether the market is "overheating" or going into "overdrive" (sic CNBC compares verbs and nouns, not exactly punchy).
Steve Grasso on the 5 p.m. Fast Money called 2,450 the level that the S&P will "vacuum back up to."
CNBC superfox Landon Dowdy appeared on Fast Money (after appearing on every other program during the day) on a boat in Florida. Hopefully, Dowdy packed a swimsuit. Mel said Dowdy's assignment was like "slave labor."
Back in the day, when you heard that opening horn from the theme song on Saturday night, you knew your weekend was rounding into shape
Karen Finerman on Friday's 5 p.m. Fast Money said, "I'm long Valeant," acknowledging "it could go to zero."
Karen, dazzling in new black top, admitted she "lost a fair amount of money" on M; the balance sheet isn't that great but "they do have asset value for sure." Tim Seymour said he finds M interesting.
Karen said she finds ULTA "too expensive for me."
Stressing the challenges of HTZ, Karen revealed, "When I go to L.A., I no longer rent a car. I use Uber; it's so much easier." She said it wouldn't be "shocking" for Carl Icahn to make a bid for HTZ.
Fast Money impressively aired some tunes from "The Love Boat." Mel said she's like "Julie the cruise director."
Jim: Young people going ‘gaga’ over makeup
Jim Lebenthal on Friday's Halftime said he finds ULTA "fascinating," because "young people are just gaga over makeup. … If the price breaks, get in."
Jon Najarian said June 31 MU calls were popular.
Najarian also gushed about MSFT and said he'd stay long the name.
Doc said to stay with CTSH.
Jim said he's "a little miffed" for selling BA at 182. "At this price, it's too high," Jim insisted, saying he'll get back in around 165-170 (or whenever NKE hits 49).
Josh Brown said MCD has made 30 all-time closing highs in 2017.
Josh said he's not really into KORS; he doesn't know why someone would look at it when there are so many other names doing well.
Tim Seymour: ‘I like to buy other people’s problems’; Grasso asks about Tim’s shirt
Jon Najarian on Friday's Halftime said he wouldn't give CVX a "sell," but he thinks there are better energy stocks, such as NBR.
Jim Lebenthal said he prefers buying the rest of his NKE position at 49 energy plays not tied to the price of oil such as refiners and pipelines; "I think oil is stuck in a trading range."
Jim said at the end of the program he thinks oil will continue to come down.
Josh Brown kind of agreed with Doc, there are better plays than CVX.
Jon Najarian said someone was buying RRC June 24 calls and selling the June 26 calls. He also said there was buying in WPX.
Judge apparently starts going
to the movies again
Hollywood mogul Peter Guber, for some reason a phone guest on Friday's Halftime (apparently because he's a part owner of the Golden State Warriors), said the NBA Finals ought to be exciting.
Catching up with the turn of the century in entertainment, Uncle Judge told Guber, "It certainly seems like superheroes now are all the rage and that's where the studios are putting their money behind."
Guber said "there's 2 audiences for sure" for today's movies.
Meanwhile, Jon Najarian reiterated that he likes PANW, but Josh Brown said the stock tends to disappoint at earnings and he'd rather buy after earnings.
Doc said, "If something's bad here and things fall apart, you could get a chance around 100. That would be fantastic."
Jim Lebenthal warned that if LULU disappoints again; "I think you're gonna see the bottom fall out of this stock."
Jim suggested FIVE may not match the hype in its next quarterly report.
Josh said he'd rather not buy WDAY ahead of earnings and risk a tumble.
Doc said October 105 calls in MAR were being bought. Josh said the XLF is trying for a breakout.
[Thursday, May 25, 2017]
Doc now claims Steph ‘correctly’ observed that the Trump Trade rolled over
As usual, the Halftime crew offered barely a tepid endorsement for this raging stock market.
"We're not significantly overvalued," said Stephen Weiss, who added the VIX "means nothing now" because of "algos."
Joe Terranova admitted he "went defensively" last week during the Impeachment Selloff.
Pete Najarian at least said he's more inclined to pick "overdrive" rather than "overheating" (sic CNBC comparing verbs and nouns) for stocks.
Judge said the risk to the market "seems to be to the upside."
Judge even invoked Robert Shiller's suggestion, during the laughable 50% thing nonsense that Judge and his producers somehow took seriously (but Cramer and the panelists didn't), "if you want to call it a call," that maybe we're only in the "middle innings" of the bull market.
(Sigh.) It's not a question of what inning. It's an answer of, this market is to stock players what 1986 was to Mets fans, and if you bail, you're a moron. (That doesn't mean every day is up — there will be disasters too such as retail or auto-parts shops — only that collectively, this is the place to be.)
"The old playbook doesn't work anymore," said Steve Weiss in a mumbo-jumbo refrain that means absolutely nothing.
Joe Terranova said "the asymmetric risk to the upside" is that taxes get done this year, retroactive to the start of the year.
Pete Najarian said financials "have quite a bit of room to the upside," and that's what takes the market higher.
In the show's howler, Jon Najarian pointed to GS last week going from 225 to 212 and said with a straight face, "Stephanie correctly called that you know, a lot of these stocks were rolling over on that particular day."
Actually, 1) she wasn't stressing 1 particular day, and 2) Najarian was right in that argument.
But 3) he's being a TV gentleman, which we'll applaud him for.
Jackie DeAngelis said "sideline conversations" continue in Vienna.
Judge calls AMZN the ‘most disruptive force in, in modern business history’
Jon Najarian on Thursday's Halftime said he's in AMZN calls, but as 1,000 nears, he's planning to lighten up.
"I'm not saying I'll get out," Najarian explained. "I'm saying I'm gonna sell at the money calls into it Judge, to take some of that money off the table."
Doc suggested selling AMZN 950 puts.
Joe Terranova suggested AMZN could reach not just 1,000 but 1,250.
Making up for his "old playbook" refrain, Steve Weiss made a great point about buying AMZN, explaining he'd feel "a lot stupider" if he bought it and it went to 600 rather than if he didn't buy it and it went to 1,200.
Although, it's also fair to say that missing a moon shot (which everyone does every day) is NEVER as significant as buying a dog.
Meanwhile, Pete Najarian and Doc hailed BBY; Doc noted the "discipline" of making cuts that AMZN has forced upon BBY.
Joe Terranova noted that BBY has benefited from the hhgregg closure. "They've done the right things within the store … I think this is a multiple-quarter story," Joe said.
Weiss was correct again, saying of BBY, "We're talking about 1% revenue growth … that game ends at some point."
Congrats to those who have been long BBY, and the BBY management. But enormous trends are working against them. We can't imagine a loopier stock thesis than chasing BBY on Thursday; months from now, CNBCers will be agreeing that "You can't outrun Amazon forever."
Apparently CNBC still hasn’t gotten any of those calls returned by Herbalife
Matt Boss of JPMorgan gushed about PVH on Thursday's Halftime, saying it has "diversified their distribution" and has a "huge runway" internationally.
"Numbers are too low, multiple's too low," Boss concluded.
Jon Najarian said the key is that PVH has "iconic names" and not bricks and mortar.
Boss also likes TJX and the off-price sector.
Doc pointed out liking PVH a week ago at 96, a great call, and while he likes the name, he suggested selling "aggressive calls into it."
Weiss thinks Robert Shiller was really making an anti-bond call; Shiller says that ‘sounds right’
We weren't particularly interested in hearing Mick McGuire spend 20 minutes of Thursday's Halftime talking about how important franchising is for BWLD.
Judge said McGuire got a "pretty decent victory" from ISS recommendations. (Zzzzzzzz.) McGuire said it's "certainly a very good start."
"There's enormous appetite for these, uh, for these restaurants," McGuire said.
Phil LeBeau reported on the GM class-action suit. Jon Najarian wondered aloud, "Where do you get 700,000 people to sign on to that lawsuit Scott if there's no, no fire at all, just smoke."
Joe Terranova praised the "diversification" of products at BLK.
Stephen Weiss said of CMG, "I still don't get it" and called the stock "way overvalued."
"Restaurants don't keep this valuation for any period of time, ever," Weiss asserted.
Pete Najarian said "turkey's the problem here" at HRL. Pete also hailed TTC even though it was down Thursday.
Pete said there's been very aggressive buying of CL August upside calls.
Doc said someone was buying a lot of September 32 calls in MGM. Doc said someone bought January 8 calls in S, sold the 9 calls, "and then they sold a whole bunch of puts." He added, "If it's 9 or higher by January, they make 10 times their money."
Jim Iuorio hung a "42-ish" target on crude. Jeff Kilburg though said, "I don't see crude oil going lower here," and he's a buyer at 49.
Weiss said he added to DATA. Pete said he's "amazed" at the speed of UAL's recovery; he touted PEP. Doc endorsed SWN, and Joe touted MSFT.
[Wednesday, May 24, 2017]
Karen actually claims Jeff Immelt is a ‘great CEO’ victimized by ‘things that are beyond his ability’
She looked, as always, dynamite.
But Karen Finerman had jaws dropping on Wednesday's 5 p.m. Fast Money not for her appearance … but lunkheaded endorsement of Jeffrey Immelt.
Karen said of the worst Dow laggards, "GE is probably the most interesting to me." Fair enough; Guy Adami agreed.
But Karen actually with a straight face called Immelt a "great CEO" plagued by "a lot of different things that are beyond his ability to, you know, the financial crisis, and GE being in that situation they were in."
Really. What did his stock do in in his first 7 years before the financial crisis?
And how much money has Metropolitan Capital invested with this "great CEO" in this century?
Guy Adami said he too finds GE interesting but noted, "they basically got out of GE Capital at the wrong time and they got into energy at the wrong time."
Pete Najarian, refreshingly blunt, knocked it out of the park, calling Immelt a "great guy," but wondering, "How many bad moves do you get as the CEO?"
Pete said the company needs changes "on the management side."
Exactly. We've never met Immelt. We've read articles about him (Vanity Fair actually once hyped him up, in a sweater surrounded by stiff-looking GE department heads). We've seen him on CNBC. No doubt, this is an engaging fellow. His heart's in the right place. If you are going on a retreat to talk about the New Economy, this is possibly your No. 1 invitee.
That, and the fact GE owned CNBC for a long time, is why CNBC personalities have regularly somehow defended him.
But when it comes to running a conglomerate, he sucks. Obviously. Look at the chart.
This site has pointed out multiple times that for some unknown bizarre reason, Immelt's most passionate public endeavor had nothing to do with GE but pleading with people at Notre Dame not to walk out on President Barack Obama's speech in 2009. (Notice how long that article is.)
Credit Jim Cramer on Wednesday's Halftime for revealing that CEOs of top industrial companies deem GE's cash flows a "real bad sign"; Cramer says it's "do or die" for Immelt.
Judge wastes viewers’ time on bungled, pointless interview with Robert Shiller
It started with Judge stating that Robert Shiller is saying stocks could go up 50% "from here."
But veteran viewers of CNBC know that 1) Shiller is going to backpedal from whatever headline CNBC assigns to his call and 2) a 50% call is meaningless without a time frame.
It took 8 minutes of Wednesday's Halftime before Stephen Weiss, not Judge, pointed out that Shiller is actually making a 10-year assessment. Weiss said it sounds more like an anti-bond call than bullish stock call. Shiller said "Yeah, I think that sounds right, yeah."
Yeah. Whatever.
Nevertheless, Judge actually claimed his jaw dropped when he heard Shiller's 50% upside call.
Pete Najarian said of Shiller, "He said 10 years, but he said somewhere between now and 10 years."
OK. Even more whatever. (Nice choice for interview subject, Judge.)
Shiller said his CAPE ratio is at 30, and in the late '90s, it went from 30 to 45, and it could do it again.
Judge asked if earnings and the economy alone, "in and of itself" (sic singular for plural topic), can carry stocks higher without Washington help.
Shiller said if they cut corporate taxes to 15%, that "gets you a good way there."
Shiller confirmed to Weiss that his assessment is based over 10 years; Weiss noted that 50% over 10 years is actually underperformance.
Eventually, Jim Cramer, who was on the panel, said what Judge somehow failed to notice, that Shiller "obviously wanted to walk it back," and "what he's really basically saying is I wish that you guys hadn't focused on the 50."
Cramer said it's notable that Shiller compared today's market to 1999 favorably.
Kourtney Gibson claimed, "I think we're getting into a cycle now where finally, finally, stock pickers are going to come back into favor."
Cramer called NVDA the stock/company that's going to change the whole world because the CEO said so "1999" even though he thinks it's the real deal.
Pete Najarian said financials have "paused," and the next leg is up.
Weiss buys X
In the day's most interesting trade, Steve Weiss twice said during Wednesday's Halftime he bought X for a trade after submitting a low bid.
He thinks it was oversold but has limited upside; "10% and I'm gone."
Kourtney Gibson said she bought HAL on Wednesday. She later said the Loop Capital analyst has a $67 target. Actually, that reminds us of Karen Finerman stating a couple days ago that she was reviewing oilfield services stocks and found analysts highly bullish across the board, making her wonder who's left to buy.
As Jim Cramer howled for some reason, Judge said Dan Loeb is questioning whether Dow/DuPont are pushing too many assets into the Liveris unit. Cramer called Ed Breen "maybe one of the greatest value creators of our time." Weiss said he'd side with Loeb, "his track record's phenomenal … he's not satisfied with 'great,' he wants 'greater.'"
Cramer said he agrees with Weiss that the Einhorn stock plan for GM "makes no sense."
Kourtney Gibson said she wished she could've bought LOW in the morning premarket.
Jon Najarian, who had a quiet show (translation: Steph wasn't on to talk about the Trump Trade rolling over), touted PVH, a good recent call.
Doc said there was a lot of activity in NBR July 11 calls.
Pete Najarian lauded BBY's competitiveness against Amazon.
Pete said LNG July 55 calls were popular.
Jeff Kilburg said Moody's issued a "pretty mixed downgrade" on copper. He said he likes it based on Chinese infrastructure. Anthony Grisanti said if the dollar rallies, there's more pain ahead for copper.
Doc's final trade was HYG. Pete touted WDC and said he owns it.
[Tuesday, May 23, 2017]
Ron Insana spares viewers the ridiculous 25th Amendment argument, thankfully
Ron Insana briefly sat in with Tuesday's Halftime crew and said "we're certainly due for a pause" and insisted "there's a lot of political risk that is absolutely unattended to in this market."
Really.
Jim Lebenthal said the market is "comfortable" if Mike Pence becomes president.
Jim said "we're stuck in general" and said "military action" is the only thing that can break the market out to the downside.
Rob Sechan said there's a "tremendous amount of cash on the sidelines."
Insana said he's someone who "perennially" hates emerging markets, calling it an "adult-swim-only environment" that's not for viewers at home to day trade. Pete Najarian said you can find what you need in U.S. stocks. Rob Sechan though said there's a "cushion" internationally because Europe, for example, is trading 30% below peak earnings.
Insana continued to warn of political risk, but Judge said any impeachment talk is happening "way way way prematurely." Insana said that impeachment is unlikely but "there can always be a conversation" among the Republican leaders and that Barry Goldwater took a walk in 1974 that changed history.
Joe Terranova, from San Francisco, said he's "a little bit amazed" about the conversation. "This market just comes back over and over again," Joe said. Judge said "we get that," but what takes it to the next level. Joe said "the reassumption of the uptrend" in cyclical names.
Jon Najarian, also remotely, said VIX futures are now back in contango. He also said the oil VIX is down near the lows of the year.
Pete Najarian scowled at Jim's suggestion that 3 tech biggies are carrying the market. "It's not just 4 stocks in technology by the way," Pete said.
Stephanie Link said she still owns AMZN but still worries. Pete Najarian said the stock thrives on "the stickiness of Prime."
Stephanie Link said there hasn't been any progress with fiscal policy, and GDP was "worse than people thought."
A day without NKE being a buy or NVDA changing the whole world
Judge on Tuesday's Halftime said Adam Jonas is wondering about Google's competition for Tesla. Jim Lebenthal agreed that "everybody's getting into it." Rob Sechan said "there's a lot of room for multiple players if the adoption's broad-based."
Pete Najarian said CPN September 15 calls were being bought by someone rolling up the 12s.
Pete said he thinks TOL goes higher.
Jim said he's not all that surprised to see AZO slumping; he thinks it probably continues.
Stephanie Link doesn't want to be in DSW.
Rob Sechan said "value mean reversion" is the reason to buy energy.
Bob Iaccino said silver should outperform gold in the medium term. Anthony Grisanti agrees but thinks the economy needs to strengthen for a breakout.
Judge reported on HLF developments and said CNBC has "several calls into Herbalife for comment" but had yet to hear back.
Pete Najarian said with Alec Baldwin's help, he raised $64,000 for Lyme disease research by auctioning off a day with himself and Doc.
Stephanie Link bought more PM on Tuesday.
Pete Najarian made DLTR his final trade. Judge hardly let Pete answer his question about how Amazon affects discounters. Steph Link said she's been buying CSCO on the pullback. Jim touted TIF. He said he doesn't think TSCO has bottomed.
Jim didn't say anything this time about people thinking a couple years ago that JCP could be another Neiman Marcus, which oddly enough was the first time we've heard that thesis, not even during the Ron Johnson tenure.
[Monday, May 22, 2017]
Jim claims people thought a couple years ago that JCP could be another Neiman Marcus
Jim Lebenthal on Monday's Halftime Report actually said with a straight face that there was supposedly a thesis a couple years ago that JCP could "migrate" (sic) into a Neiman Marcus.
That came after Judge let Jim deliver another speech on JCP (Note: If you can't make an argument for a stock in a few words, it's not really worth owning) in which Jim said, "I got into this because I saw improvement in the cash flows, and I projected that that was going to continue, and it has continued."
But Judge noted an improving debt situation isn't resonating with investors and questioned when it will. Jim said, "At 4.7, this is a buy" before admitting his average cost is "around 6.20."
Judge assured Jim, "We get it," and promised he's "not trying to embarrass you or anything."
F, GM, FCAU might be very good companies but frankly aren’t remotely as exciting as Tesla no matter how much they talk about autonomous
Phil LeBeau was enlisted on Monday's Halftime to summarize the brief history of Mark Fields' F.
Judge said, "I just don't get it," asking LeBeau how, if you can't grow your stock when car sales are "at a record high," then "how the hell can you grow your stock price when, when, uh, sales have arguably peaked" (a question also asked by Guy Adami at 5 p.m.).
"What is Hackett gonna do that Fields couldn't?" Judge demanded.
LeBeau said the board believes "Hackett will make Ford move quicker … Look, there's a lot of institutional bureaucracy there."
Sarat Sethi called Hackett a "change agent."
Steve Weiss said "I applaud" Bill Ford's move, "however, he seems to hire people, with the exception of Mulally, that he knows."
Josh Brown scoffed at Hackett's hiring; "he's a cost-cutter when literally the only path to survival is spending more," Josh said.
Josh said "every technologist in Silicon Valley knows" that the average car sits in a parking lot or driveway 90% of the time and is thus incredibly inefficient.
But Jim Lebenthal, who likes GM, said cars should get a boost from the improving job market for millennials, and as for the future of sharing cars, he made a sippy-cup argument.
Jim insisted that fears of Silicon Valley sinking Detroit are no different than Webvan in the 1990s.
Sarat Sethi said there's "not a lot of downside" to owning the automakers now especially with the dividend.
Karen Finerman on the 5 p.m. Fast Money admitted there's some "macro issues" for all the automakers 5 years from now; "are people gonna have their own cars."
Meanwhile, on Halftime, Sarat Sethi admitted he's "missed" the run in defense stocks but called them a good buy.
Jim Lebenthal said FINL trades cheaply but he called the $500 million market cap "really risky."
Josh Brown said to "ignore" the osteoporosis news at AMGN.
Sarat Sethi called the BX Saudi Arabia position a "good catalyst" for the stock.
Sarat Sethi said this is a good time to buy QCOM but that many will avoid it until the Apple issues and the NXPI acquisition are over.
"Tech people don't talk about Qualcomm at all," said Josh Brown.
Steve Weiss said he owned QCOM in 2011, and he had an 80-85 target then, and "it's never gotten there!"
Jim's final trade was QRVO. Josh said not to trust the XRT; it won't hold 40.
Karen Finerman on the 5 p.m. Fast Money said she still has a "pretty big technology bet," touting GOOGL as well as financials. Karen also said she was looking up oil-services names and found "the analyst community, it's almost a universal buy … with price targets significantly higher than where they're trading," which makes Karen wonder who's left to buy. But Tim Seymour said he likes HAL.
Weiss felt like a genius for hedging just before Wednesday, but the market has practically recouped it all anyway
In a tepid (that's being nice) opening 18 minutes of Monday's Halftime, panelists gave the stock market a lukewarm endorsement.
Josh Brown at least stressed that there's lots of strength in this market, pointing to JNK and its "super, super-bullish chart" and noting the SMH is right back to yearly highs after fears of a blowoff top.
As for sentiment, which was Judge's opening hook, Brown said the "elephant in the room" is the quant funds that are "completely divorced from any of this nonsense about I trust Trump or I believe in the agenda."
Sarat Sethi said, "Every day, there's negative headlines," but he advises, "Don't pull out yet."
Jim Lebental said he thinks the market has been "stuck" for "many months."
"I don't particularly trust this market, but that's an opinion," Jim said, predicting a range of 2,350 to maybe above 2,400.
Mike Santoli said "there's that sense out there that it's late."
Stephen Weiss said Lee Cooperman on Friday declared equities fully valued. "I'm not so sure the VIX means what it used to mean," Weiss said, adding, "I put on some hedges last week right before the big decline and felt like a genius for about a day."
Jim Lebenthal declared himself an "active manager" and contended there are a "lot of different segments of these markets that are performing differently," calling value stocks "basically flat."
Though tech's done great, Weiss said "you really have to be irresponsible not to regard risk being in the market somewhere."
More from Monday's Halftime later.
[Friday, May 19, 2017]
Jim evidently didn’t like Judge’s NKE ‘cheapskate’ implications, won’t take him to lunch
Jon Najarian on Friday's Halftime took a small but deserved victory lap on his suggestion a couple days ago of a possible VIX peak, a premium that "virtually vaporized."
Jim Lebenthal said the market's telling us that it's not worried about whether Trump lasts 4 years, and he thinks the cash from the sidelines will carry the market further.
Doc said there is a "significant amount of money on the sidelines" and pointed to DE (we think that's one of Jon Najarian's Trump Trades© but not necessarily a MarketWatch Trump Trade).
Kari Firestone said Bob Mueller provided a "security blanket" to the market. Firestone pointed to 4.4% unemployment as a catalyst.
"Today, I bought Foot Locker," Doc said, despite the "horrendous" report. He said he put out a note touting a "tremendous opportunity" at 60-61. (It might well work out next week but didn't work on Friday.) (This item was posted after the market close Friday.)
Jim Lebenthal said NKE is on his "watch list," he has a half position and had a 53.50 buy for the rest; he said at 48-49, he'll buy the other half of his position. Jim congratulated himself for not buying NKE at 53.92 despite hectoring from Judge and cheapskate allegations and not taking each other out to lunch.
Things Ron Johnson didn’t think of: JCP could sell sheets to hotels
Jon Najarian on Friday's Halftime said WMT June 79.50 calls for June 30 expiration were popular. He said he'll be in them "2-3 weeks."
Jim Lebenthal suggested brick-and-mortar retail has potential of going "extinct." Without Kevin O'Leary in the way, Jim said the Jet transaction has "clearly transformed Wal-Mart into a real ecommerce player."
Jim touted JCP again … this time for trying to sell bedding to hotels.
Josh Brown, again without Kevin O'Leary in the way, said if Jet doesn't work, no big deal, "it's like a rounding error" for WMT. (O'Leary would say WMT could be doing its own version at a "fraction" of the cost.)
Kari Firestone said WMT is still "an enormous presence of brick and mortar across the country that may or may not survive in its current form 5 years from now."
Josh: PANW a ‘falling knife’
As viewers wondered what Judge's criteria is for taking panelists out to lunch, Jim Lebenthal on Friday's Halftime grumbled that it's difficult to "paint such a broad brush stroke" and deem all tech the same; he said IBM doesn't look anything like FB, and NVDA doesn't look anything like QCOM.
(Hmmmm … we didn't realize a big problem on Wall Street is people thinking IBM and FB are in the same business.)
Jon Najarian said he's a seller of puts in PANW. Josh Brown called PANW "the wrong one" with the "worst chart" in the space and a "falling knife," but he said CHKP looks "phenomenal."
Josh said nobody in Times Square has heard of Jen-Hsun Huang, but he's going to "reinvent the world as we know it," and NVDA's involved in "every single important breakthrough technology."
Doc said he likes NVDA and AMD, and he'd buy AMD on another dip.
Jim actually said CSCO is starting to look like IBM and said CSCO can do things with cash. "There's plenty of international companies that can be bought," Jim said.
Current longest-running cliche on Fast Money/Halftime: Citi trading below book
Josh Brown on Friday's Halftime said (again) that the lesson with DE is not to be suckered by a cheap P.E.; the growth takes off when the P.E. gets expensive.
Jim Lebenthal made SYF sound useless before concluding it "doesn't excite me."
Doc said he wishes he owned MCK.
Jim said C "should be 10-20% higher just to get to parity with its book value."
Kari Firestone said there's "at least a 50% chance" that BX becomes a corporation and no longer has the K-1 problem.
Jim’s possibly still rankled by Judge tripping him up on ‘peak auto’
Jim Lebenthal, a quote a minute on Friday's Halftime Report, said to "keep it simple" and "follow the rig count" in the oil space.
Jim said OPEC "can't afford to cut." Doc said the OPEC optimism is about extending the cut to 9 months and bringing Russia along.
Jim told Josh Brown that pipelines aren't "tied to the price of oil" now that oil's stuck in a range; it was different when crude went from 110 to 30. Josh insisted the dividends may not be as "sacrosanct" as they seem "if oil doesn't do X, Y and Z."
Doc said he's in GD and likes the name. Josh Brown said it's hard to say which defense stock will have the best quarter and suggested the ITA. Jim said to keep an eye on BA; he'd like to buy it around 170 or 165, and he said he sold it earlier at 182, for those interested in previous winning trades.
Kari Firestone said she likes LDOS and expects it to track defense stocks, albeit delayed.
Doc touted PVH. Jim expects another TIF beat. Josh Brown gushed about JPM.
[Thursday, May 18, 2017]
O’Leary: WMT could’ve done what Jet does at a fraction of the price; SHAK ‘irrelevant’
Thursday's Halftime Report was partially preempted by the Times Square tragedy; both before and after, usually chipper Mario Gabelli was flat as a pancake.
Kevin O'Leary took a minor victory lap in shrugging off the Wednesday selloff. "It was just noise," O'Leary said.
Josh Brown said Thursday's bounce was "pretty textbook" after what happened Wednesday and the smoothness leading up to it.
Mario Gabelli said that from this administration, "tax reform is totally necessary, territorial vs. global, uh, corporate tax rate."
Joe Terranova said the "one policy" the markets want from this administration is corporate tax reform.
Judge briefly yielded to gorjus Ylan Mui, who conducted a fine interview outside the Steve Mnuchin hearing with Liz Warren, whom we often disagree with, but we'll give Warren credit for making articulate points in brief soundbites and Mui for asking good questions on the spot.
Warren carped that Donald Trump claimed to want Glass-Steagall but that Mnuchin said he doesn't think commercial and investment banking needs to be split. "In other words, he just reversed position from the administration by 180 degrees," Warren said.
Mario Gabelli said he likes FCB.
Judge said Gabelli was "payin' the piper" on CSCO. Gabelli responded, "I don't own any."
Joe said if you're looking to buy a pullback, the "1st place" to look is TXN, TER and LRCX.
Josh Brown said WMT is having a "clear and present breakout."
Kevin O'Leary said WMT "overpaid" for Jet, which he called "crazy." Josh insisted "no, they didn't overpay."
Josh said Jet is the team that beat Amazon with diapers.com, and WMT was smart to buy that team. Judge called that a "very compelling argument."
O'Leary said "online, you can emulate" and that Instagram copied what SNAP does and "decimates" SNAP's market cap. (This writer is long SNAP.)
Brown said they're talking about ecommerce, not social media.
"They could've built it for a fraction of the price," O'Leary insisted.
Mario Gabelli said he owns ORLY and GPC but not AZO.
Jon Najarian, via satellite, said he thought BABA was "overdone" at 114 and said some people started buying a bunch of calls from 120 to 130.
Judge said Wedbush actually upgraded SHAK to buy. Josh admitted the high valuation "hasn't been cured" but said the stock has an "investor base."
Brown told O'Leary SHAK has "a hundred and something" stores. O'Leary said the company is "irrelevant" and called it "nothing burger."
Honestly, we gotta agree with O'Leary; we don't get that one except that it's apparently a popular spot for NYC traders, who must be the only people keeping the stock afloat. The food's fine but nothing extraordinary and highly expensive, and this is a massively competitive space.
Jeff Kilburg said you can have the "perspective" of fading the 10-year but said it'll stay in a range. Anthony Grisanti said he can see the 10-year hitting 127.01, the 200-day, in the next few sessions.
Gabelli said he likes MWA as well as RSG and Case New Holland.
Kevin O'Leary said he's intrigued by Mario Gabelli's interest in RHP. O'Leary seemed most excited by the Atlanta Braves play of BATRA. O'Leary grumbled that BATRA is merely a "tracking stock."
Gabelli affirmed he's nibbling at MGM.
Thursday's 5 p.m. Fast Money featured Tim Seymour talking over himself and stumbling into a flap with Steve Grasso; we quickly lost track and interest.
[Wednesday, May 17, 2017]
O’Leary: ‘This president will be around for 8 years’
Kevin O'Leary on Wednesday's Halftime Report called the day's correction "not a big deal" and merely the "pause that refreshes."
But Ron Insana, who decided to come back after being roped into the Trump Trade fiasco yesterday (see below), asserted, "I don't think that this is something that's gonna blow over" and predicted it gets "far worse" before it gets better.
Jon Najarian opined that Wednesday or this week could mark "peak insanity" out of D.C. and explained the VIX is in backwardation.
Judge said we're a "long way" from impeachment proceedings.
Josh Brown said stocks roared for 24 months after the most recent impeachment, and perhaps the market wants President Mike Pence anyway. Brown also said he doubts that an impeachment trial would take place over one memo, and he said Wednesday's market is not unusual, it's everything leading up to it that's been unusual. (All 4 of those being excellent points.)
O'Leary insisted that Middle America considers this little more than noise. Insana dubiously claimed, "We should be more focused on the 25th Amendment," the clickbait point he's been making in the blogosphere.
But O'Leary correctly took issue with Insana's repeated insistence that things get worse before they get better, stating, "It gets more entertaining before it gets better."
Erin Browne said she doesn't think D.C. turmoil derails the market recovery.
Jim Lebenthal contended that the market has decided that Mike Pence will become president and that Pence "will get the Trump agenda done better than Donald Trump will."
O'Leary made the day's boldest prediction: "This president will be around for 8 years. People really are starting to like a different style," O'Leary said.
But Brown said, "He has sub-40% approval."
Brown said of the Trump presidency, "There is no agenda."
O’Leary: IBB into ASCO
Kevin O'Leary on Wednesday's Halftime Report said he's always long heading into the ASCO meeting, and he uses the IBB.
Jon Najarian said he likes BMY and CELG. Josh said he'd be long IBB and said he likes BMY and AMGN.
O'Leary said he loves JNJ.
Meg Tirrell, who delivered multiple reports from JNJ's day, told Judge something many would love to hear: "You can't get rid of me."
O’Leary: TJX a ‘howling hound from hell’
Jim Lebenthal on Wednesday's Halftime cautioned about TJX, "When you get one miss like this, it's kinda hard to come back."
But Josh Brown said he'd buy TJX because "I like where the selloff stopped."
Jon Najarian said that given the trouble in retail, the discounters will be buying inventory for "pennies on the dollar."
Kevin O'Leary scoffed at TJX and said it's "not only a dog, it's a howling hound from hell."
Josh Brown said TGT upped the guidance that it recently slashed; he doesn't see a reason to buy but if so, he'd put a stop below 52.
Ascena surfaces on 5 p.m. Fast Money; Karen calls Dress Barn ‘one of the dumbest names ever, only worse than Athlete’s Foot’
Discussing F on Wednesday's Halftime, Jim Lebenthal decided to use the word "plateau" to describe auto sales.
Judge pounced on that and demanded to know how Jim can like GM; "you just made the case not to own, not to buy an automaker."
Jim said "that is not what I said," but rather, he was making a case against F, which he said has unfortunately been penalized for not entering bankruptcy like other automakers and getting union concessions.
Jon Najarian said SBAC September 150 calls were popular while the 155s were being sold.
Doc said he likes RRGB and JACK and that consumers seem to like custom burgers more than assembly-line variety.
Kevin O'Leary said every time DIS sells off, he buys more.
Jeff Kilburg said "the reason to own gold makes a lot of sense." Jim Iuorio said, "1,320 is my upside target."
Josh Brown said he'd buy JPM anytime under 90. Jim touted AAPL. Erin Browne said to buy regional banks. Kevin O'Leary touted his own product.
Karen Finerman on the 5 p.m. Fast Money said the selloff could take us back to where we were a month ago and observed, "Interestingly today, retail didn't do that badly." She also said she might buy URI on another drop.
[Tuesday, May 16, 2017]
Settled: Doc’s own personal Trump Trade DID NOT ROLL OVER!!!!
It all started when Stephanie Link opined, "All of the Trump trades rolled over, and rolled over hard."
Oh my.
That set off Jon Najarian, whose Cheerios were obviously peed in before he took a seat on Tuesday's Halftime Report.
"I disagree again. They rolled over and rolled over hard?" Doc bellowed.
"The Trump- the Trump trades? Yeah they sure have?" Link responded.
"OK, so Caterpillar, Cummins, John Deere, did they roll over hard?" Najarian continued. "Did Goldman Sachs roll over hard? Did JPMorgan. They're up 25%! Do you expect 50%?"
"Wait a second," Link protested. "They rallied from the November lows, they rallied huge … and then they took a real big nosedive. And then in March, then they started-"
"So they're still up 25%, and we expected them to be up 50 Steph??" Doc thundered.
"I- I have to tell you, that I don't think these companies are pricing in any kind of fiscal policy at all," Link offered, trying to slightly change the subject.
"Well, they did not roll over," Najarian insisted.
"Yes they did," Link insisted back.
"If you wanna tell me, U.S. Steel and Freeport rolled over, you'd be right. But you're not right about these others," Doc scoffed.
"How about energy? How about energy?" Link said.
"That's not one of my picks!! How is that a Trump stock??" Doc hammered.
"We're talkin' about apples and oranges here!" Link said.
Grasping for help, Judge summoned Ron Insana to stop the bleeding. Insana said, "In a certain sense, energy stocks have become Trump stocks." Like the deft (former) host he is, Insana neatly excused himself from the melee by pivoting to the "Xi Trade."
But still Insana couldn't resist. "Now this Trump trade I think is beginning to roll over," he said, as Doc was caught on camera smugly nodding.
Judge then made a mistake, telling Najarian, "I can pick any, any stock in the market to support my point of view on anything. (Sure. Show us a chart that proves coal is ripping.) … Financials are up 1% … year to date."
Doc astutely pointed out that Trump's approach to energy is likely to create more supply, which would theoretically hurt prices.
Then Link made a bigger mistake than Judge, telling Doc, "But that's not the point you're trying to make."
"No that is the point. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE!!" Najarian thundered. "I'll tell you the points I'm trying to make. You don't have- you don't have this little kid inside my head telling me what I'm doing Steph."
"Stop yelling. Stop. Yelling," Link said.
"Dude you need to chill out," Judge told Najarian.
"All right, I'll chill out," Doc shrugged.
"I'm serious," Judge said. (He explained later on Twitter why he said that.)
"All right," Doc said.
Goodness knows why, but Judge made another mistake, informing Doc that industrials are up 5% this year and financials 1½% this year. "They did roll over," Judge claimed, without explaining how a 1% gain constitutes "rolling over."
"Scott, again, they did NOT roll over," Doc said.
Pete Najarian jumped in (guess which side he took), stating, "Rolling over is not what they're doing. They've paused. That's the real difference."
But Pete was right.
Link said financials fell 10% since March 1. "And then they got a bottom, and they're starting to creep back," Link said.
"It might just be semantics," Doc offered, before this goofy point: "If MarketWatch calls it a Trump stock, that's not Jon Najarian calling it a Trump stock."
Sigh. (And try watching this whole thing twice.) 1) Link was wrong, 2) Doc was kinda hyper, and 3) Judge clumsily picked the wrong side to defend.
At the end of the show, Doc said, "I'd be remiss if I didn't say I apologize Steph. Got a little heated. But uh, I luv ya" (sic spelling per 1970s Houston Oilers).
Link said, "Luv ya too."
Judge said it's "one big happy family."
Judge tweeted afterwards, "For those of you who don't know, or have never met him, @jonnajarian is one of the nicest, most respectful people I've ever met."
Doc tweeted that it was "Just a tad too much java for me today."
We said earlier that when this started, we practically wanted to crawl under the couch, but we nearly fell off the couch (in a good way) when we caught Joe Terranova's angular sideways glance (below) near the end of this exchange that he smoothly sidestepped.
Joe: DKS a ‘falling knife’
Well, when the Halftime gang needs a smile, there are few better subjects for this crew than NKE.
Guest Corinna Freedman said her NKE "buy" call is based on footwear outperforming athletic apparel.
Freedman told Pete Najarian the 70 target isn't too high of a P.E., saying NKE had higher P.E. levels a year or 18 months ago.
Freedman actually mentioned "3-D printing" (snicker) as a boost for NKE.
Meanwhile, reaffirming his belief in a more defensive posture, Joe Terranova said he'd trade a WYNN for a MSFT because the "optics" on MSFT are "far better long term."
Stephanie Link said HD is getting the traffic in stores; she curiously said she'd hold it but wouldn't buy it here. (If you own it at the end of the day, isn't that like buying it?)
Pete said Citi's "sell" on PFE "surprised me."
Doc said MLCO June 24 calls were being bought in "big numbers." Pete said he's in EOG because the January 100 calls were getting bought. Pete said he created a spread. Joe called CXO, PXD and EOG the "3 winners" in the shale space.
Brian Stutland said the euro could reach 1.20 in a year, a headwind for the dollar. Jim Iuorio said "it could be a crowded trade" and thus could gain some momentum.
Joe Terranova said of TWTR, "The right people are buying the stock."
Meanwhile, meeting the show's quota of 1 CNBC Disruptor 50 interview, Judge brought in Robinhood co-founder Baiju Bhatt, who explained that Robinhood is an "app that lets you trade stocks for free."
"How do you make money then," Judge asked.
Bhatt said they have "various" ways, including offering Robinhood Gold, which "lets customers, um, borrow money from us."
Judge said that's basically allowing people to trade on margin, and, "I wonder what that says in and of itself (sic last 4 words unnecessary and redundant) about, about where the market is right now."
Pete Najarian sighed that TJX was getting beat up a bit. Stephanie Link said, "It truly could've been a weather problem."
Joe called DKS a "falling knife" and questioned the average price target being 59.92.
Pete's final trade was AMAT. Doc said MU. Link said to buy CRM on any weakness. Joe said he bought DNKN and hung a 60 on it.
Karen Finerman, undeniably gorrrrrrjus (below) in new cream-colored ensemble on the 5 p.m. Fast Money, called the notion of a "crowded" trade "ridiculous" and said she doesn't know what it means and that such a cliche won't prompt her to sell GOOGL.
Seema Mody donned new blue dress and reported on JACK's gains.
Doc, Steph, get into
shouting match
We almost wanted to crawl under the couch — and we were only watching from home.
But we'll have to address the Doc-Steph showdown a bit later, so all we've got is the boring stuff for now.
At the beginning of Tuesday's Halftime Report, CNBC's John Harwood characterized H.R. McMaster's remarks (which encroached on the program) as a "non-denial denial."
Joe Terranova said the market resilience in the face of D.C. turmoil is "incredible." But he said it's a "big issue" as to when taxes get addressed.
Joe suggested maybe viewers "downshift" a growth strategy to a little more "value-oriented" (snicker) or a little more defensive.
"It's a stock-picker's market," declared Stephanie Link. (Ah, yes. This is the year value wins.)
Ron Insana, who's not normally on this program, conceded it's "surprising" to see stocks this resilient.
Judge decided, "There's a seller's strike on Wall Street."
Jon Najarian, amped up for this particular hour, said we've had the "best year-over-year growth" in S&P earnings in 6 years.
Insana observed that the president could be "lurching towards a constitutional crisis" but the market would just expect Mike Pence to pass the agenda without the drama.
Insana said Charlie Cook is suggesting the possibility of a Democratic takeover of the House. Doc cut in, "Absolutely no chance, Ron. No chance," adding the market would "hockey-stick to the upside" if tax reform takes place in 2018.
More from Tuesday's Halftime, including Doc and Link's rather heated debate over whether the Trump trade "rolled over," later.
[Monday, May 15, 2017]
Joe delivers message
everyone needs to hear
There was a healthy debate about colon-cancer screening and the stock of EXAS on Monday's Halftime Report, but Joe Terranova delivered the greatest public service.
"18 years ago, my father passed away. He never went for a colonoscopy. Unfortunately, the first colonoscopy he went for was the one that told him that it was too late," Joe said. "I've gone for a colonoscopy ever since. The prep is not hard. People should do it. It's a struggle."
Left fails to justify ‘most important report in years’ claim while issuing valid PSA
Monday brought one of the Halftime Report's best debates in recent memory, as Citron short seller Andrew Left dialed in to defend his short-EXAS call … and even take on the CEO.
Judge questioned if Left billing his EXAS call as his "most important report in years" is maybe a "little hyperbolic."
Left said, "Absolutely not; this report goes way beyond just the stock market."
"My phone's been ringing off the hook with hedge fund managers," Left said, but they weren't talking about money, just the importance of a colonoscopy, something Left impressively stressed during the program.
Judge asked Left for "evidence" that EXAS' Cologuard product doesn't work. "I have their evidence," Left said, stating the company did a study that showed the product is "inferior" to the standard of care. He said the company is "trying to have people think there's an alternative to a colonoscopy."
Judge notably grimaced when stating Left thinks the stock could go to zero. Left said, "Well, zero is easy," stating, "Blood-based DNA cancer testing is the future."
Left said EXAS "might be a complete dinosaur" by 2020, and that while even Valeant can't really go away without problems, "this company could go away tomorrow."
Then EXAS Chairman and CEO Kevin Conroy dialed in and stated, "Andrew is dead wrong when it comes to detecting Stage 1 colon cancer from blood … a blood-based test is very unlikely to ever displace any other test."
Conroy said Cologuard is "at parity with the other screening methods."
"I'm not dead wrong, it's his study," Left insisted.
Conroy said Left "mischaracterizes that study" and said the study says the "greater compliance" of Cologuard is actually "incrementally cost-effective relative to the fit test."
"We leave this up to physicians and their patients to choose which test is the right test for them," Conroy said.
"The patients shouldn't choose," Left argued, insisting, "The patient should listen to their doctor. And the doctor should choose."
Judge cited a Barron's article and told Left, "More doctors clearly are prescribing this company's product."
"These studies by Leerink and Barron's are from sell-side research that's taking small percentage of the doctors," Left said.
Conroy told Judge, "The study shows that our test does detect polyps," while allowing, "Not at the same rate as colonoscopy."
"Remember those precancerous polyps take 10 to 15 years to turn into cancer. We have a long time to catch them," Conroy said.
Conroy concluded telling Left his report "may be detailed," but it's "wrong." Before Conroy could conclude his remarks, Left blurted, "Tell the viewers, Don't get a colonoscopy."
Afterwards, Joe Terranova explained, "The reason you go for the colonoscopy is if you have the polyp, it will be taken out surgically at the time of the colonoscopy. That's the benefit of a colonoscopy. Cologuard, I'm not sure how you could take the polyp out at the time of the test."
Pete Najarian offered, "It seemed like Conroy had a pretty good argument, however," citing the stock rally during the conversation.
Josh Brown said there's already a 28% short interest in EXAS, so the bear case has been out there.
Steve Weiss said "you have to be careful with some of the surveys." Weiss added, "I've gone for colonoscopies, this has never come up in what a doctor suggested."
This was a fascinating conversation. Left's argument about blood-based DNA cancer testing doesn't seem a great investing thesis for 2017. Conroy, who defended his case very well, made the argument that his product benefits people who won't undergo a colonoscopy. This is a problem for Left's position. Either Cologuard provides some value, or none. If the answer is "some," it's hard to see how the stock is a zero, unless 1) everyone starts flocking to colonoscopies or 2) a superior product to Cologuard is created.
For whatever it's worth … just because we notice these things … it seems a bit embarrassing that the description of Cologuard on the Exact Sciences website includes half a paragraph repeated.
If they're not reading their own website, how diligent are these folks about the effectiveness of their product?
Weiss: ‘Political risk doesn’t exist anymore’
Judge on Monday's Halftime announced that PYPL (among other tech greats) hit an all-time high, in defiance of the winning idea at Ira Sohn (see below).
Joe Terranova said you don't need a "complicated" strategy and suggested AMD now that the "dust has settled." He also said he'll be buying TWTR above 19; he'll "absolutely" buy it in the "next day or so."
Josh Brown said blue chips in the U.S. and globally "are just going bonkers." He mentioned the EEM and VGK again.
"We're deifying the large corporations that have managed to make it through the last 10 years," Brown explained.
Steve Weiss wouldn't bite on Judge's question as to whether tech greats are overpriced; "arguably they were too rich to buy up 15%, up 20%," Weiss said.
As for owning them, "I don't think that's a bad bet to make," Weiss said, concluding, "Political risk doesn't exist anymore."
Josh Brown demanded Judge add CRM and ADBE to the list of tech leaders beyond the FANGs. Judge insisted, "I named those."
Joe said the market "never looked back" after pushing through 2,300 and suggested the same might happen at 2,400.
Joe said the market wasn't responding to the potential of Washington progress but the "removal of the protectionism fears."
Steve Weiss said the notion of TSLA as a tech giant has been the case since "200 points ago" and "a hundred points ago."
Josh Brown said a lot of things look anti-shareholder when Elon Musk does them, then shareholders cheer; "it's a little Trumpian actually."
Brown, who mentioned TAM (that's correct, not the Memphis Tams of the ABA) a couple times in the opening, sort of gushed about the prospects of Tesla selling rooftops to people wandering into showrooms looking to buy cars.
"Frankly it's a little bit Apple-esque," Brown actually claimed.
Weiss said of TSLA's price, "It's tech on steroids."
Pete Najarian said he talked to Adam Jonas "a week and a half ago about this whole thing."
What happened to
the great GE breakout?
Pete Najarian on Monday's Halftime said SBUX will be able to rapidly fix its "mosh pit" problem and is going higher.
Pete said he's long KO, and by the way, the November 44 calls (Zzzzzzzzzz) were popular.
Josh Brown said sales of homes to first-time buyers "is a very big development."
Joe Terranova said he doesn't "trust" the price of oil, but he likes the play of long OIH.
Steve Weiss called AIG a "pretty interesting story."
Stephanie Link touted MDLZ and said SBUX "makes a lot of sense." Link said she trimmed URI around 130 (for those looking for rear-view-mirror Brag Trades); she likes it now.
Link is trimming PH and SLB.
Judge suggested SNAP (this writer is long SNAP) was rising on reports of big investors getting in the name. "There's so little stock out there that can actually change hands," said Josh Brown.
Pete's final trade was HD. Weiss said CTL. (This writer is long CTL.) Brown offered MA, and Joe said FTNT.
[Friday, May 12, 2017]
O’Leary: JCP ‘going to zero’
Jim Lebenthal on Friday's Halftime Report defended one of his favorite longs, JCP, stating, "The stock is currently being priced for bankruptcy. Take a look at the debt for JCPenney. It is clearly not being priced for bankruptcy."
Josh Brown said JCP debt is a "demand issue," meaning, "people will buy any bonds right now."
Josh said the stock is "being priced for obsolescence."
Jim said "all of the players" in the JCP sector say February was the "disaster," and March and April are trending higher.
Kevin O'Leary wasn't impressed. "If every store closed, nobody would even hear it," O'Leary said. "It's a zero. It's going to zero."
Jim insisted he wasn't making a rosy retail call. But we gotta say, in this kind of department-store environment, JCP doesn't seem like the greatest buy call. (This writer has no position in JCP.)
Josh says he’s ‘not long a lot’ of GE
Kevin O'Leary on Friday's Halftime Report said the Deutsche Bank call on GE, while it didn't mention the term, is about potentially cutting the "dividend."
Steph Link called GE overvalued. Josh Brown, who has touted the stock for seemingly years, claimed, "I'm not long a lot of it" and said many of the issues raised in the Deutsche Bank note are "legitimate."
Steph Link said Jeff Immelt is "gonna retire next year anyway."
Kevin O'Leary claimed Jeff Immelt "got handed a black box of financial services that he had to work for 12 years to unwind. And he got it done." (Ah. So it's Jack Welch's fault.)
Josh Brown called recent price action in GE "atrocious" and said the bottom of the range is 27, and if it "convincingly" closes under that, there's no reason to be long for a trade.
O'Leary said he would "guarantee" GE drops below 27 if there's another "hint" of a dividend cut.
Jim Lebenthal said he doesn't own GE because, despite the fact GE makes airplane engines and airplane sales are great, "They can't make enough money to justify the share price."
Another 8 minutes on SNAP
Somehow, we're hearing better things about SNAP since the hazmat-suit earnings call than before it. (This writer is long SNAP.)
Ross Levinsohn dialed in to tell Judge on Friday's Halftime, "I'm very bullish long-term on SNAP. I think the only thing that surprised me on the earnings was the miss."
And other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the …
Anyway, "The engagement numbers are terrific," Levinsohn added. He said he doesn't put SNAP in the "social" category. He thinks it's a "communications platform and I think it's a creative platform."
Josh Brown scoffed, "It's a camera company."
Levinsohn acknowledged, "Well, they're leveraging the camera, right."
Josh had a good idea, that Levinsohn should pitch himself to Evan Spiegel as SNAP's Sheryl Sandberg. Levinsohn said, "That's kind of you. Probably not up to me."
Judge said the point is that maybe SNAP needs an "adult" (sigh) (Drink).
"Evan is revolutionizing the industry," Levinsohn insisted, adding, "I actually think Facebook is becoming much more and more like Twitter than it is like Snapchat. And I think Instagram has become what Facebook was," grumbling about the "fake news" he gets on Facebook that's really "heavy, heavy politics" that is "sort of messing up the entire feed."
Josh Brown suggested playing SNAP by putting on a buy/limit order above the all-time high. Josh said it's "too soon" for even a "genius" to determine if SNAP has long-term traction.
Age 50 — when the end is nearer
Mike Wilson, who resembles Peyton Manning, sat in with Friday's Halftime crew and said earnings have been "spectacular" and suggested people still "aren't on board" with the idea that multiples can expand.
"The story line's been underplayed," Wilson said.
Jim Lebenthal said the Trump agenda is a "big if at this point in time." Wilson said he's "highly confident" there's no tax benefit built in the market for 2017.
Kevin O'Leary suggested 45 could be the "new norm" for oil. Wilson said he sees crude at 50-55 this year.
Josh Brown actually suggested all the euro exit threats "turn out to be beneficial in that they force some of the reforms to happen."
Judge pointed out that Wilson's 2,700 call is based on 12 months from now, not year-end.
Josh Brown said, "There's like a difference between hard deregulation and soft deregu-"
Judge said Ray Dalio thinks near term looks good, but "longer term looks scary." Mike Wilson said, "I mean, look, I'm 50 years old, I mean the long term is scary. I mean, you know what that means, I'm getting closer to the end."
Jim's final trade was long TIF. Stephanie Link said CRM. Kevin O'Leary mentioned one of his ETFs.
[Thursday, May 11, 2017]
Joe suggests store is challenged because ‘it’s crowded, it’s crammed’
When they weren't talking arrogance on Thursday's Halftime, they were channelin' Yogi.
Judge reported that Jana is skeptical of some of the WFM board nominees for lack of grocery experience.
Pete Najarian said "I took off half today" and said the company's had declining sales for 7 straight quarters.
Joe Terranova said WFM is presently trading "at probably the right price." Joe said he frequents WFM stores, "but I think the experience too has deteriorated … It's crowded, it's crammed."
Crammed stores. That's a tough problem for retailers to overcome.
Pete Najarian said June 25 calls in PPC were popular.
Jon Najarian said June 29 calls in GE were popular.
Judge asked the Najarians, "Are you guys always in the same trade." No, they said; "sometimes the interpretation (snicker) is different."
Pete said he agrees with the Atlantic Equities analyst to go neutral on HD but raise the price target.
Sarat Sethi said "Goldman's missed the whole party on YUM" (sounds like they allocated their arrogance to SNAP, see below), and he still likes the stock.
Doc suggested selling SYMC puts at 30.
Joe said CXO is a "better name" than XOM.
Doc halfheartedly agreed with Savita Subramanian's note that biotechs are cheap; he said there's unusual activity in BCRX.
Sarat Sethi said to buy CELG and BMY. Pete said he's "waiting and waiting" for GILD to do something; "they've gotta buy somebody," Pete said. He also touted AMGN.
Joe said biotech "scares the heck out of me," predicting the sector will get "annihilated" if there's a market decline.
Jeff Kilburg said Aramco will "pound the microphone" to get crude past 50. Jim Iuorio said crude could "easily" reach 50-51 before we have to make a "decision" on where it's going.
Judge said the VIX on Thursday might be providing a "bit of a reality check." But Doc shrugged off the "half a percent" move in the S&P.
Joe seems to suggest Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley might be even more arrogant than Evan Spiegel
Mixing Wall Street with Silicon Valley millennials, and we have the jackpot of egomania.
The Najarii since late April had been touting SNAP call-buying while dismissing the company. (This writer is long SNAP, so caveat emptor.) (Then again, this site is free.)
Obviously those calls imploded in a bad way after the "horrific" report Wednesday night.
On Thursday's Halftime Report, Doc admitted his call-buying disaster but said he bought SNAP overnight at "17.38 or something like that," an opportunity for a trade.
Judge said some people were put off by "arrogance" from Evan Spiegel, adding that Jim Cramer says Spiegel "needs to be hazed," a curious term given the recent tragedy at Penn State.
Sarat Sethi warned that SNAP doesn't have unlimited pockets. "The more SNAP spends on R&D, the more it's gonna hurt them in the next earnings," Sarat said.
Doc said when SNAP shrugged off losing more than a billion dollars, "that's crap."
"It's kinda like when Zuck was going around and he was walkin' around with a hoodie," Doc analogized. "When was the last time you saw him in a hoodie in front of the cameras?"
Doc added, "I think Spiegel can recover from this. … if he grows up and does a more grown-up conference call next time."
Joe Terranova said, almost in disbelief, that "I am amazed at the analysts' recommendations this morning," pointing to Goldman Sachs' 27 SNAP target and Morgan Stanley's 28 overweight. "It's an incredible amount of arrogance and it's unfortunate because it does not, it does not suggest or teach the proper discipline those watching the show, those in the markets need to have surrounding these companies."
Well … we're not sure how a target that the stock already reached a couple months ago is incredibly arrogant, but more on that later.
Brian Wieser, who has a less-arrogant $9 SNAP target, said he's "actually reasonably positive" about the business in the long run but just thinks it's "massively overvalued."
Wieser made a quality point, that managing the company will be more difficult if the stock stumbles, because so many key employees are paid in RSUs.
He said he took Evan Spiegel as "confident," but "I don't know that it was the right tone for this call."
A couple times, Wieser credited SNAP for warning about revenues, admitting, "Wow, we didn't take them at face value."
Doc warned that SNAP is facing the "mother of all lockups."
Honestly, we hardly have any clue what this company's product is. But in our own version of "channel" checks, we couldn't help but notice that Wednesday's 5 p.m. Fast Money, in which Guy Adami astutely suggested buyers at 17, devoted its opening 14 minutes to this earnings report, then followed up with 6 more minutes later.
Judge gave it an 11-minute stretch on Thursday's Halftime. Since Worldwide Exchange overnight, CNBC has pounded this arrogant earnings report into viewers' heads approximately every 15 minutes.
So, we're thinking major stumble here, but that this contraption isn't done yet. (Then again, buying the dip — whether Macy's, Marine Le Pen or James Comey, doesn't always work.)
Judge could've asked a provocative question but didn't: whether SNAP, at 18 and change, is a better buy than TWTR, at 18 and change.
When a 100% loss is better
than a 15% loss (cont’d)
The Najarii frequently report trades based on unusual call activity, and many happen to flourish.
But some don't, such as Doc's god-awful tandem of SNAP (last week) and M (this week) into earnings.
On Thursday's Halftime, Jon Najarian observed that "overall retail sales are up."
But as for Macy's, "This was just a terrifically bad quarter. Obviously I and anybody else who had calls into this thing just saw 'em get flushed."
Then came the mumbo jumbo: "The only good news there is, stock's down almost $4, um, and the options you could only lose what you paid for 'em, 40 cents or whatever."
See, that's the slogan for option pitchmen, the notion that you come out ahead losing 100% of a bad options trade than 15% of a bad stock trade (which can always recover) because somehow you would've spent a lot more on the stock than options.
Sarat Sethi said it's "taking longer" for M to get rid of its weaker stores than people thought.
Pete's assessment of M: "They are still a ways away from the transition that they need to make to be competitive."
Joe Terranova questioned who will buy the retailers' underperforming square footage; "are we just gonna open bowling alleys all over the United States?"
"Target's down 21% year to date!" Joe added, predicting an overall retail "bleed into other parts of the market."
Joe touted BABA and chastised himself for a "poor job" of not mentioning the name more often.
[Wednesday, May 10, 2017]
Josh implies Yellen’s job security contingent on the S&P 500
On Wednesday's Halftime Report, Grandpa John Harwood discussed the James Comey firing and told Judge, "The administration's agenda is in trouble, and the administration itself is in trouble," adding it's now "more difficult for Congress to digest the issues of health care, tax reform, legislative changes to Dodd-Frank."
On the other hand, "The market doesn't think it means anything," opined Jon Najarian.
"The only person that probably thought Comey was doing a good job was himself," Doc said. "I'll take the oppposite side of John Harwood on this: I don't think this means anything for the stock market."
Rob Sechan predicted a "pivot away from what is possible to what is practical" (snicker) in D.C.
Citing forward VIX, Sechan contended, "There's fear in the market. Nobody's complacent right now."
"I'm not with you on this one," said Jim Lebenthal.
Sechan praised the market's resilience even during "a French election that got very scary" (snicker).
"The spot VIX below 10 is a danger signal," Jim insisted. He also said Tuesday's news is a "very strong impediment for tax reform."
Doc insisted to Jim that the VIX is trading 40% higher than it should be.
"There is a fear premium built into this price," said Pete Najarian, backing his brother but otherwise having a quiet show.
Rob Sechan said rarely do 1st-half winners lead the 2nd half, so he suggests rotating into energy and financials. Pete said it takes "facts" to justify dabbling in those areas.
Finally given a chance, Josh Brown uncorked a provocative comment: "I think the market already decided in February and March, this was an incompetent administration, and none of this stuff was gonna happen," Brown said.
Josh said all the "Trump trades" are lagging big-time while giant tech is soaring.
Josh said if Yellen hikes and the S&P falls "more than 10% off its, off its record high, he is going to be on Twitter calling for her head. You can mark my words. Remember that I said it."
Rob Sechan said he agrees there's a "political macro narrative," but "I think the micro narrative is starting to become more, more important, right now."
Left needs better argument than Amazon entering the space; that’s what the NFLX shorts kept saying
Appearing on Wednesday's Halftime Report, W short Andrew Left asked Judge, "How are you."
Judge said, "I'm good, maybe better than you're feeling today," given Wayfair's recent move after Left called it a short a while back.
"I feel just fine," Left said, adding, "Funny enough, I think it was the same interview I recommended buying Restoration Hardware at 30, and then it's doubled to 60, but we don't wanna talk about that," although Judge said they could talk about that later.
Anyway, "I think it's a wonderful opportunity to short Wayfair," Left said, acknowledging the week's short squeeze.
Left said Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne claimed Wayfair is "buying revenues" and indicated the business is a "house of cards."
Judge said momentum in W was working against Left "literally as we're having the conversation … the stock is literally adding value as, as we're having this conversation."
Left said, "I'm gonna leave this interview, and I'm gonna go play golf," suggesting AMZN and WMT are "working for me" by sometime entering the space.
Left said that if you approached private equity about the worth of Wayfair, they'd be asking how much you'd pay them to take it.
Josh Brown asked the question that's asked of every short trade, what would it take for you to cover, and Left provided the standard answer: "There's nothing this company can do to make you change your thesis on it. Whatsoever."
A bit behind the curve, Judge asked Left if he has a position in NVDA. Left pointed out that when he predicted $90 on the show a while back, it got to $95, "so I'm sorry, I missed the bottom by 5 points," then said on the previous show that he's not shorting it anymore.
Judge said Wayfair had "no comment," but the CEO will be on Closing Bell.
‘More down than up’ in crude
Judge on Wednesday's Halftime took up Bernstein's $30 conviction short on INTC.
Jim Lebenthal said that "even if you don't like it as a long, I just don't see how you short this stock," stating you'd have to ignore the Mobileye acquisition (snicker), and there's more risks to the upside than downside.
Josh Brown said semis have been breaking out, and the sector's great. Judge said that's true, so how come "Intel hasn't been doing anything." Josh contended "it's a better risk/reward from the long side."
Jon Najarian said he doesn't like Bernstein's call because he thinks the stock "rips" in September after there's been 9 months since the Mobileye acquisition.
Doc said June 19 calls in NUAN were popular, but the stock was at 19.77 while he spoke, so it seems to us like the baby's already been born on that one. Pete said NBR June 11 calls were popular.
Brian Stutland called crude's gain "a bear market rally" and that $45 is the "target." Scott Nations predicted "more down than up" and said the chart's in "no-man's land."
For final trades, Rob Sechan touted the XLE. Pete Najarian touted SNY. Doc touted ATW. Josh said he's staying long NVDA. Jim backed XRT again.
[Tuesday, May 9, 2017]
Ira Sohn champ runs into Cramer
Judge on Tuesday's Halftime brought in Ira Sohn investment idea winner Dylan Adelman, who more than handled himself like a pro … even if we have to agree with Cramer on Adelman's thesis.
Judge announced that Adelman was calling an EBAY/PYPL pairs trade. But Adelman said, "eBay is a long, but, embedded in the idea that eBay is a long, implies that PayPal is also a short. Because there's a peer value transfer from PayPal to eBay, about $1 billion in earnings starting in 2020, in perpetuity."
Josh Brown told Adelman, "I was in the audience," and "everyone was like very into the idea."
Joe Terranova wondered if Adelman views PayPal estimates "as being a little bit too conservative." But Adelman said "a reasonable bear case could be in excess of 50% earnings loss for PayPal long term."
Josh more fully explained Adelman's thesis, that EBAY "has to have" the PayPal option on its site for now.
Judge invited Jim Cramer to the set (what a surprise, he was nearby); Cramer took a seat and stated PYPL "perhaps is not a great short." Cramer even mentioned Apple Pay.
Adelman said that as early as 2020, EBAY can "go out on its own and basically create a merchant of record processing system in house." Sure, but will it be any good, and would anyone even use it, and aren't regular eBay users going to keep using PayPal anyway.
Cramer said "it's not a great business for them," meaning eBay, and that Alibaba doesn't want to do it. Adelman said "Alibaba still looks into this."
As for the trade, actually, "I would flip it," Cramer said.
Nevertheless, Cramer said he was "reluctant" to confront Adelman and, "I didn't wanna come out and say, 'Listen, I think that's a dumb idea. It's not." (Even though he would do the exact opposite.)
"I think the kid held his own," Judge said.
Adelman even cracked a joke, telling Judge that being on the Halftime Report is "actually what I aspire to in life. … I can retire with happiness at 20 years old."
Unfortunately, he said he's looking to a hedge fund career.
MSFT 1999 vs. AAPL 2017
Judge opened Tuesday's Halftime hailing his previous day's interview with Jeffrey Gundlach at Sohn, which carried that day's 5 p.m. Fast Money show.
Tuesday, Josh Brown endorsed Gundlach's view (which Josh noted has been his own for a while) and said Europe, Japan and the EEM are "the key to outperformance this year."
Jon Najarian didn't seem quite as excited, stating South Korea is in the EEM with Brazil, "and if you can link those 2 up, well good luck to ya," but otherwise, he thinks "it's a good call by Jeffrey Gundlach."
Jim Lebenthal argued that holding international stocks is supposed to be part of the plan. "Most of the time, you are supposed to have a diversified portfolio, particularly if you're a high-net-worth investor, which is what we deal with. You're supposed to have some international stocks including emerging markets in there," Jim said.
But Jim astutely pointed out that while Gundlach's trade is "academically very correct," investors tend to get nervous about "some of the riskier assets like emerging markets" if the S&P 500 starts to slump. (Translation: If EM does great, the S&P will be doing well also.)
Joe Terranova said of the VIX, "What we are witnessing right now is mathematics at work … The correlations are all mean-reverting intraday."
Judge aired the morning comments from Chamath Palihapitiya, which gave the panel a chance to gush about how great AAPL is. Jim Lebenthal said, "The next 12 percentage points guarantees the 10 percentage points after that," because "every news channel out there" will be hyping the march to $1 trillion market cap, another moment of AAPL conversation sounding like MSFT pre-Y2K.
Karen: Air travelers looking for opportunities to sue airlines
Judge on Tuesday's Halftime Report devoted a curious amount of time on P's confidence about a deal within 30 days.
Jon Najarian said there was unusual activity in P on Monday.
Joe Terranova said P has a "deteriorating balance sheet," but now it's got a "financial safety net" and board "expertise."
More skeptical, Josh Brown said "it's tough to make the case that there's gonna be some great deal for this company." Jim Lebenthal said, "The 30 days doesn't help."
Joe acknowledged Pandora is a "textbook study on accelerating competition in your industry."
Meanwhile, Doc revisited making the bull case for UAL a few weeks ago, even though he admitted at the time he didn't really believe in it, but now he's in a call spread.
Josh Brown said he likes JBLU, citing planes that are 95% full.
Joe said he thought the "large aircraft carriers" would struggle for longer and admitted, "I never expected United to come back this quickly." He touted LUV, ALK (yep), HA (yep) and JBLU.
On the 5 p.m. Fast Money, Karen Finerman said, "It just seems like people may be seeing these airlines as a, you know, as a bank. If you can get yourself on a video where the- some employee of the airline does something bad, maybe that's a home run for you."
Phil LeBeau said the airlines aren't saying that publicly, but executives are "hearing that."
Eamon Javers can’t recall a more stunning and dramatic moment in D.C. than the firing of James Comey
Joe Terranova on Tuesday's Halftime Report mentioned DIS having the "Star Wars" franchise, which makes this the 3rd or 4th movie that Wall Street supposedly hasn't priced in. Jon Najarian is long DIS call spreads. Josh Brown predicted the stock might "come in" and said he'd buy a pullback.
Anthony Grisanti said he's "not surprised" that copper is lower. Scott Nations conceded it's a "queasy chart for bulls."
Doc said May 30 calls in M were being bought aggressively. Doc also said someone's buying January (snicker) 14 calls in FCX.
Joe advised being long KKR. Jim Lebenthal touted XRT. Josh said DIS and Doc said he bought AFL.
On the 5 p.m. Fast Money, upon hearing of the firing of James Comey, Karen Finerman stated, "You can't help but look at this as partisan-driven."
In a bit of hyperbole, Eamon Javers said, "This is a stunning and dramatic development, about as stunning and dramatic as I can remember in my years in Washington. This is entirely unexpected."
[Monday, May 8, 2017]
Gundlach: ‘Passive investing
doesn’t even exist’
Mel and her unfortunately sleepy crew were on the 5 p.m. Fast Money Monday, but it was Judge who stole the show at Ira Sohn with Jeffrey Gundlach.
Gundlach likes a long EM/short SPY relative trade. But he had more interesting things to say about passive investing.
He said that in his Sohn presentation, he declared, "Passive investing doesn't even exist. It's just rules-based. And the S&P 500 isn't even rules-based. It's run by a committee."
He's right, although the nomenclature of "passive" still legitimately applies. No question, the S&P 500 and Dow are actively managed, their handlers are constantly (but not very often, as Gundlach notes), like everyone else including the crew of CNBC's Goofy 100 ("Goofy" is our term and not part of the title), simply trying to pick the best stocks.
Taken to extremes, an allocation of money to an index fund is an active rather than passive decision. However, let's get real just a bit, when Judge asks (as he does about every 15 minutes) whether active or passive investing is a superior approach right now, everyone knows the distinction he's talking about.
Gundlach put those who quote him (gulp) on notice, telling Judge he launched a Twitter account because "I'm just tired of getting false news out there," and this way he can right the wrongs without "trying to get a retraction that nobody's gonna read."
Brad Gerstner says he thinks Twitter and Bloomberg should merge
Brad Gerstner, who once told Judge that Altimeter's board resolution with United Airlines would rewrite the HBS curriculum, sat in with Monday's Halftime crew at Ira Sohn and said recent events at United Airlines were "frustrating" and "we were upset by the way this went down," but the company "got around to the right apology" and "moved forward" by raising bumping limits to $10,000.
Gerstner said the handling of the situation was "clumsy," and that Oscar Munoz is "probably the person front and center who is the most disappointed with how this was managed." (Um, isn't he the one who managed it?)
Gerstner said Charlie Munger said the airline business now looks like the railroad business. Stephen Weiss said Buffett and Munger stumbled in US Air a while back, which colored their view.
Gerstner noted that neither Amazon nor Alibaba is in the travel space yet. Almost hilariously, he said, "I've always thought of Twitter a lot more like Bloomberg, you know, I think it would make sense for those 2 businesses to be together." But he's not in TWTR.
He says he can "see the rationale" for the SNAP (snicker) long case.
Judge asked Gerstner if Uber needs "more adults in the room." Gerstner winced. Judge insisted, "These are serious issues, that, that, that been happening, not just noise." Gerstner responded, "Companies face issues. These are hard businesses. … Stuff's gonna go wrong."
Weiss asked Gerstner why DATA is still public. "When it got cut in half, we made it a large position in our fund," Gerstner said. "We think it should be closer to a hundred today."
For whatever it's worth, Chamath Palihapitiya on Closing Bell told Kelly Evans that IBM's Watson is a "joke," calling it a "nominally specious name."
Tim Cook apparently suddenly a great CEO again
Stephen Weiss on Monday's Halftime said there's "no riskless equity trade ever," but AAPL actually "comes pretty close to it," suggesting the next quarter is a "throwaway quarter" and the only question is "how much upside will be left" when the next iPhone is announced.
Josh Brown said, "It really took 2 years for Apple to become worth more than it was in February 2015."
Brian White said "what we're starting to see here are the dark clouds around this valuation on Apple … starting to part ways."
Joe Terranova said he read a Goldman Sachs note suggesting the 5 FANGs or horsemen or whatever they're called might be getting pricey, but "I don't know if that's a strategy that you want to align yourself with right now."
Weiss said that after great earnings reports, if something happens in Washington, the market could go into "hyperdrive," and a 20-22 multiple is possible, although this page thinks his multiple might even be low.
Joe questioned who would sell the market with the VIX under 10. Judge said, "That's a conversation in and of itself (sic last 4 words redundant)."
Joe said the VIX is telling us that "everyone is running a long-volatility strategy." Weiss said "the real debate" is, "Does the VIX mean what it used to."
Weiss said Draghi can't stay in "full Q.E. mode."
Leslie Picker said XLNX and GIMO were getting a boost from Ira Sohn commentary. Judge asked Picker if Sohn might be the "stage" for Bill Ackman to disclose some new investments (and not just who his former Harvard rowing teammates were). Picker said it's the "perfect platform" for such an announcement.
Marine Le Pen, yesterday’s ‘news’
Late on Monday's Halftime Report, Keith Meister told Judge he's going to file a 13-D after the market close disclosing a stake of about 5½% in CTL.
"We commend the CenturyLink board on doing a game-changing, transformative deal in merging with and acquiring Level 3." (That was handy; this writer is long CTL.)
He said the "bottom line" is that he wants LVLT CEO Jeff Storey to be an executive of the new company and not just a board member.
Meister said the market's concerned with "short-term drivers," things that "will become irrelevant." (Gotta agree there. The selloff last week on the earnings report while these companies are in merger mode was bizarre.) Meister said the important thing is the transformative deal and that T and VZ "are doing other things … their, their, their futures are getting less good."
"The key is, not to get the integration wrong," Meister said.
Steve Weiss told Meister about what he said earlier in the show before Meister got there, that CTL could separate the dynamic new business from the crummy legacy business. Meister said that's "exactly right" but rather than agitate for that, it "happens on its own."
[Friday, May 5, 2017]
Steve Grasso actually suggests it’s time to be lightening up
Steve Grasso on Friday's Fast Money stated, "There's a battleground setting up for that 2,400 level in the S&P cash." Grasso said Trump only got a "minor victory" with the health care legislation and warned not to "count our chickens just yet" and suggested he'd be "lightening up unless you have a real fundamental reason to buy."
Grasso even said, "To me it feels like global growth is in question."
Whatever.
This market is the place to be, and that includes some stocks that will be spectacular shorts. We have no clue when the pullbacks will happen (and neither does anyone), but we do know, if you're lightening up in this market, it's like a Mets fan bailing on the 1986 team.
"North Korea was a big deal last week," cautioned Karen Finerman. "It could be a big deal next week" (snicker).
Nevertheless, Finerman said she's "staying long."
Judge misses the forest through the trees, fails to ask panel whether Tim Cook is a great CEO
Stephen Weiss on Friday's Halftime Report made a provocative point about Tim Cook.
Weiss called AAPL's $250 billion in cash "a declining asset, a wasting asset. They're buying bonds with it. Bonds yield nothing. You mean to tell me that there's not somebody there who couldn't have come up with something to buy?"
"I said they should've bought Netflix a year ago, 2 years ago … then their services would've ballooned," Weiss continued.
Josh Brown insisted AAPL management has "done their job for shareholders."
"What have, what have, what have visionary CEOs done, in terms of their stock price," Weiss said.
"Apple's bigger. Go on," Brown said.
"I think he's been a shepherd," Weiss said. "What's he innovated; what's he brought to the market."
"Nobody's claiming that he's been the most innovative CEO," Brown admitted.
Jim Lebenthal asked Weiss if he's selling AAPL. Weiss said no. Jim said, "Why are we having this discussion?" Weiss said those guys can "wallow in mediocrity."
Weiss said Tim Cook was a "process guy at Qualcomm before he got to Apple" and that he's a "manager" and not an innovator.
Brown wrongly accused Weiss of calling the next iPhone a "mediocre" product launch.
Jon Najarian and Weiss said Samsung phones are ahead of AAPL. "Jony Ive's been sleeping at his desk because Samsung's gotten there first on every single innovation," Weiss said.
As Weiss asked Brown to defend AAPL's management, Judge asked Weiss, "Why are you asking it snarkily though."
Kevin O'Leary said it's "sheer insanity" that AAPL would buy NFLX. "There's absolutely nothing proprietary about Netflix," O'Leary asserted.
The important point here — which not even Weiss made, although he hinted at it — is that long-term Silicon Valley greatness seems pegged to individuals, not products … and it's kinda hard to put Tim Cook in the "visionary" category.
Judge says some people put
Stan Druckenmiller on the Rushmore of investors
Pete Najarian on Friday's Halftime Report said Buffett's IBM sale is "a, an indictment" of the stock but not necessarily the worst indictment.
Judge tried to insist this is a big problem for IBM, but Pete pointed to MSFT and CSCO from 2011.
Jim Lebenthal admitted owning IBM a couple years ago, stating AI (snicker) is great but just a "tiny" part of the company, and IBM has got $40 billion in debt. He said this is Buffett's way of "gently" saying "sayonara."
Pete said he's not so sure, that maybe it's "a shot toward the board," and he mentioned the dividend.
Stephen Weiss said IBM is "not comparable" to MSFT. "The time has come and gone for this company," Weiss said.
Weiss said "there's so much difference" between CSCO and IBM.
Pete demanded to know why Buffett didn't sell his whole position. Judge said, "How many of these guys Pete sell their entire position in one fell swoop?"
Jon Najarian said Buffett recognizes "what we all said," which was, "This was a mistake from the beginning."
Josh Brown said he's been studying Berkshire Hathaway forever and "it's pretty much a fait acompli" that Buffett will exit the entire position. Brown added that IBM has vastly underperformed the S&P and XLK since 2009, and, "It's been a terrible stock."
Judge said, "You know what Jack Ma of Alibaba the other day said? The next great CEO is gonna be a robot."
Judge said "some people" would put Stan Druckenmiller on the "Mount Rushmore."
Grandpa Kevin O'Leary predicted IBM "will be tainted forever as he exits" and hit the 130s.
Did we actually go a whole week without Nike and Under Armour?
Jon Najarian on Friday's Halftime retraced his post-Brexit BCS purchase, claiming, "The very day after Brexit, I bought it down, it fell down to I think 7.75 or so, on its way to 6 by the way, I was too early, um, but then I bought more at 6, sold it at the end of the year like around 11 bucks."
Well, thankfully, this was mostly correct.
But not exactly.
Najarian said on Monday, June, 27, that he bought shares Friday around 8.30, sold $8 puts, and then on Monday bought more shares at "6.90-something."
As for BSC now, "it's not exciting," Doc said.
Grandpa Kevin O'Leary said regional banks are still down 1.8% for the year and mentioned that 18% of JNK is "garbage" energy debt.
Josh Brown questioned if O'Leary thinks he's the only one who knows those numbers or whether the market is "pretty smart" and has already priced in these issues. O'Leary said that info was not "relevant" 6 weeks ago because oil was trading 50-55.
Erin Browne said the regionals with significant energy debt exposure tend to be in Texas and are a "fairly minute universe of banks." Browne said there are better margins and better growth ahead.
Josh Brown said SHAK expectations are very low, but he couldn't answer Judge's question as to whether the overnight slam and rebound were both justified.
Jim Lebenthal suggested that Mario Gabelli might be suggesting the Atlanta Braves are worth $2.8 billion; "I'm not saying he's crazy, but I think 2 billion is more the value of the Atlanta Braves."
Steve Weiss said "the future bodes pretty well" for ZG, and it might be an acquisition candidate.
Becky Quick spoke about the Berkshire meeting while a CNBC cameraman showed Warren Buffett riding around the floor of a convention center in a golf cart with a couple of security guys trailed by a photographer while a robot dispensed "Cherry Coke from China" with Warren Buffett's image on the can.
Quick said her "gut" feeling is that Warren would've unloaded his entire IBM stake if he could've.
Erin Browne touted the "tremendous value" in European stocks.
Jim Lebenthal predicted a higher 10-year yield. Weiss agreed and suggested the TBF. Doc said there was unusual call buying and rumors in FNSR.
[Thursday, May 4, 2017]
David Seaburg calls SHAK a ‘classic pump and dump’
After undeniably gorjus Ylan Mui (in red) recapped the day in D.C., Guy Adami on Thursday's 5 p.m. Fast Money predicted the new health care act will be "dead on arrival" in the Senate.
David Seaburg said, "That CBO score is gonna be a disaster."
Seaburg called SHAK a "classic pump and dump," explaining that sales projections were made based on NYC traffic.
Mel shrugged, "But it's not the management who assigned the stock a multiple, right? Wall Street was complicit in this pump and dump."
Pete Najarian presumably got double pay for doing the Halftime show and the 5 p.m. show.
On the Halftime Report, Pete and Josh Brown gushed about how great FB is.
Joe Terranova, who had a quiet show, said he disagrees with the notion of the tech greats as a "source of funds, an ATM if the market corrects," when in fact he thinks they'll be "safe havens."
Guest host Sully asked if buybacks are overrated or even counterproductive. Josh Brown gave a really long answer that AAPL since 2012 has spent more than $200 billion on dividends and buybacks (which didn't actually address the point).
Pete Najarian said September 130 calls in BUD were popular. Doc said May 27.50 SNAP (snicker) calls were popular.
Jeff Kilburg said "investors are selling with both hands in the crude oil space," but he's "still supportive" of crude in the "bigger picture."
Anthony Grisanti stated, "You can trace this back to gasoline demand."
Jackie DeAngelis mentioned an upcoming appearance on Futures Now by Bill Strazzullo, who was once a Fast Money/Halftime regular.
Gorjus Leslie Picker recapped last year's Ira Sohn winners, including longs in WRK and H and shorts in DEPO and MTNJ.J.
Pete said he thinks people are interested in GIS. Doc touted FDX on "percolating" call activity. Joe predicted a 125 breakout in PNC.
French election not mentioned again, shows you how useless it was to talk about it for months
Jon Najarian on Thursday's Halftime said oil won't kill the stock rally but will "slow the rise."
Joe Terranova said to continue to "avoid the space." But he warned about the "avalanche" of debt maturities in 2018 that could be trouble.
Josh Brown said 26 has been support for OIH. He said he likes the XLE, "only down 15% from the highs." Guest host Sully explained that 40% of the XLE is in 2 stocks, XOM and CVX.
Pete Najarian said he too is in XLE and he's also in the KMI options (you know, the ones who cut the dividend last year, and OMG!!!!! THAT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!)
Doc said the "real VIX" is at 7, "but it's pricing at 10.60," explaining that's due to a 52% higher volatility in options "than are actually justified by the movement in the market."
6 weeks from the Fed, Zzzzzz
Richard Fisher on Thursday's Halftime took a roundabout approach to answering Sully's question as to whether a June hike is "inevitable," that answer being, apparently yes.
Jon Najarian said he's long TSLA puts, stating he predicted a fade.
Joe Terranova said if you're in SQ, stay in it, don't get out like Joe did, but it wasn't really clear whether you should buy it now.
Sarat Sethi said LB is worth owning for the long term.
Doc said LB is on his "radar" for perhaps a private equity deal; he sees a lot more upside with that name than with JWN.
But Pete Najarian admitted he owns JWN and touted Nordstrom Rack despite Sully's cannibalization concerns, and "they're also very strong in online."
Sully actually had a good punch line when Josh Brown was talking about coming home from work every day to find "3 or 4 cardboard boxes stacked up in front of the house." Brown said DNKN is a name that can't be disrupted by Amazon.
[Wednesday, May 3, 2017]
Toni: AAPL ‘to me feels like a trading stock’
Steve Weiss on Wednesday's Halftime Report said he bought AAPL Wednesday morning because buyers have a "free pass," and it's "one of the safest stocks out there."
That description was called into question later during a debate between Jim Cramer and Toni Sacconaghi.
Sacconaghi said the iPhone upgrade rate is "no different" this year than in other years. He said China continues to be "very weak" but acknowledged there's "pent-up demand" there.
Sacconaghi lukewarmly said the stock "continues to work."
Cramer questioned why CLX gets a higher multiple than AAPL. Nobody made the obvious rebuttal, that 5 years from now, Clorox will still have the preeminent bleach, but it's possible someone besides Apple will build the best phone.
Sacconaghi had the best point of the whole AAPL discussion, telling Cramer that if AAPL falls from 135 to 90 and goes from 90 to 146, "that to me feels like a trading stock."
Exactly. Seems a much better buy in the 90s than 140s.
Despite plunging into the stock on Wednesday, Weiss called Sacconaghi's analysis "brilliant and realistic," stating there comes a point (such as with televisions) that it's just impossible to innovate much more.
Rich Saperstein said he has a full position in AAPL but suggested a "broad basket" of tech stocks.
Jim Lebenthal carped about Apple services lacking growth in the last quarter. Doc said that while nobody on the panel owns an Apple Watch, "apparently a lot of people are buyin' 'em."
Judge called the Cramer-Sacconaghi conversation a "big win" for viewers.
Doc said people were taking "cheap shots" in the options market at a TWTR surge.
Only mention of French election in a week is Doc’s CRTO segment, illustrates how it was overrated for months
Jon Najarian said on Wednesday's Halftime Report he'd "much rather own Sonic" than MCD at current price despite the Goldman Sachs call.
Doc said MCD can "hide things they don't really want you to see" on the TV screen menus, which Doc called an "upsell."
Stephen Weiss thinks MCD has some upside though "not a lot of upside."
Jim Lebenthal wasn't impressed by the Goldman Sachs analyst. "This is a throw-in-the-towel call," scoffed Jim, insisting MCD is a value stock and not a growth stock.
Doc revisited his MDLZ call of a day ago, which was indeed a great call. He "rang the register" on Wednesday morning.
Doc said someone was aggressively buying CRTO July 50 puts.
Pete mistakenly said NBL had a "52-week high" on Wednesday when he meant to say 52-week low; he bought the June 32.50 calls.
Gorjus Leslie Picker suggested "the pain may soon be over" for OZM.
Jeff Kilburg said he expects a crude move higher over the next 22 days. Anthony Grisanti said 47 support will be tested again, and a breach could take us to 45. "It's lookin' ugly right now," Grisanti said.
Pete said GILD needs to make an acquisition.
Doc said he sold puts in TWLO and made that his final trade.
Jim said ETSY's marketing expenses were "through the roof," and the stock will be in the "penalty box" for a while.
Jim also explained that GRPN doesn't have a competitive moat; "competition is killing 'em."
Steve Weiss said it seems like AKAM has a horrid quarter once a year; he doesn't mind owning it lower and made it his final trade.
Jim touted QRVO. Pete touted GS. Rich Saperstein touted IGM and said small caps would benefit from any movement in Washington.
[Tuesday, May 2, 2017]
Josh, Doc buy AMD
Joe Terranova on Tuesday's Halftime said AMD was hit by "incredibly high expectations."
Josh Brown said he bought some and brought his average cost "into the mid-11s."
Jon Najarian said he bought it Tuesday also. Judge said some investors found the guidance and margin "disastrous."
Later, Doc said there was put buying in NVDA.
Judge, Steph seem to disagree as to whether HD and LOW trade in tandem
Steph Link on Tuesday's Halftime Report endorsed the Credit Suisse bull call on HD and LOW and suggested LOW might have "more of a catch-up trade."
But Judge said the stocks have "almost mirrored each other."
Link contended, "One will outperform the other at certain periods."
Josh Brown said LOW has just broken out and is "headed to 100 bucks a share." Doc said the HD options he touted a while back doubled while the stock climbed.
Joe Terranova said, "Housing inventory is incredibly low." Josh said this was the best 1st quarter for housing in 5 years.
Joe says the ‘right people’ are buying TWTR for the ‘earnings turn’
Jon Najarian opened Tuesday's Halftime stating the AAPL straddle is almost exactly the same price as a year ago though the price of the shares is much higher now; "so in other words, the amount of premium that people are putting on this is way too small, in my opinion."
Thus there's "no reason not to be hedging" the earnings tonight, Doc said.
Stephanie Link said she doesn't think this quarter is "that material" to AAPL at all, and guidance isn't really that important.
Judge said, "Apple in and of itself (sic last 4 words redundant) … is up more than 27% year to date."
Joe Terranova revisited his "reality check" conversation of a day ago, stating it's a "very real possibility" that AAPL and FB earnings blast the S&P over 2,400. (But for the next couple months, stock-picking is going to be more important than ever.)
Josh Brown asserted that we're in a global market, not a FANG market, and "that's your reality check."
Doc said Mark Cuban "bought the fallen angels" GPRO and TWTR and not the high fliers, then struggled to define for Judge what Mark's interest in TWTR really is.
Josh Brown said he's long TWTR, stating the last time the stock was at this level, it was because of takeover speculation.
Brown gushed about GOOGL, prompting Stephanie Link to wonder why you need to be in the "difficult story" of TWTR. Brown admitted, "That's a good point."
Link called TWTR a "very hard stock to own."
Joe claimed that "the right people" are buying TWTR and that we're witnessing an "earnings turn." But Doc said, "I didn't see an earnings turn though Joe. I saw revenue down 11%!" Joe insisted there's "stabilization."
Joe buys shoes online
Judge on Tuesday's Halftime asked Dana Telsey if retail is near a bottom.
Telsey said yes, but it doesn't apply to all areas of retail. However, one of her arguments was that the "weather's gotten better."
Judge asked about GGP. Telsey said mall REITs have "all talked about the fact that, excluding apparel, their sales have done better."
Telsey said her top picks in apparel are LULU, LB and PVH. "If I'm gonna play apparel, it's gotta be in the branded area," Telsey explained.
Telsey also hailed COH's strong comps and its "ambassador" Selena Gomez and "the social media that she gets."
Bob Pisani chatted with Tommy Hilfiger about mentoring women; Hilfiger made the case for "omnichannel" and "some sort of social media to reach out to the public."
Doc said he likes Telsey's names and added RL to the list.
Josh Brown said XRT failed at the 200-day, and "there's a ton of broken charts" within the individual names.
Joe Terranova cracked that he bought "some really good sneakers" last week from Amazon and got them a day later.
Bob Pisani fails to elicit scoop from Jeter on Marlins bid
Phil LeBeau on Tuesday's Halftime said Oscar Munoz got "hard questions" but "nothing blistering."
CNBC superfox Leslie Picker said Pershing Square's fund just got listed in London.
Judge mentioned that it's the "spectacular misses" that have "dominated" the talk about Ackman. Leslie said, "The Valeant bet was a very creative bet," while CMG was "bread and butter activism."
Jon Najarian said May 46 MDLZ calls were popular.
Stephanie Link got to gush about CMI.
Doc said THC caught a lot of people short.
Joe Terranova said he's "not happy" with CVS' price action and will re-evaluate.
Josh Brown said V and MA "might be the best business model on earth."
Brian Stutland said India data could drive copper higher later in the year. Jim Iuorio said copper's in a "broader range" from 2.45 to about 2.80 and that the dollar falling below 98.50 would send copper surging.
Joe said he likes PYPL over 50. Steph Link touted WLK. Josh Brown said not to panic if AAPL falls.
Just before the Halftime Report, Bob Pisani chatted up Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez at the BTIG event and asked Jeter about the bid to buy the Florida Marlins. "There's absolutely nothing to add to that. Uh, I think media has ran with the story," Jeter said.
[Monday, May 1, 2017]
Halftime gang trades ‘aphorism’ (sic we had to look it up) allegations
Fresh off vacation, Judge roared back to the Halftime set Monday suggesting … Ben Bernanke made "controversial" (snicker) comments earlier in the day on CNBC.
Then he rolled a clip of Ben saying, "If there's a big tax cut for example that lowers tax rates" (as opposed to those big tax cuts that raise rates).
Joe Terranova claimed Ben was "great" and deserves a "tremendous amount of credit for what he did for this economy." But Joe said it's a tech-driven services economy now that is somehow "incredibly difficult to measure," and so it'll be hard to get to a 3% rate that's "easy to measure."
Steve Weiss claimed "Joe's point is dead on. We don't know how to measure this economy."
(Translation: It seems a lot better than the numbers, so the numbers are obviously wrong though we can't begin to explain why.)
But Josh Brown asserted the "long-run correlation" between GDP and stock returns is "effectively zero" and thus an "irrelevant conversation."
Arguing like Chicago Bears fans over Mitchell Trubisky, Weiss challenged Brown as to whether GDP is a "lagging indicator" or "contemporaneous indicator." Josh said from 1900 to 2009, the U.S. GDP was 1% higher than the U.K. but the stock returns were the same. Weiss said Brown should "talk about cycles."
Jim Lebenthal said Ben is missing the "derivative effect" of "animal spirits" from the tax cuts. Judge said Ben is not "dismissive" of that but that it's only a "pop" and not sustainable. Steve Weiss questioned if happy consumers are going to buy extra cars if car purchases are already at all-time highs.
Weiss said Steve Mnuchin is wisely starting to underpromise and overdeliver.
Joe said to get to 3% under today's measurements, "you need a grand infrastructure plan" (snicker).
Weiss has the line of the day, suggests AAPL buy Cuba, ‘join Nafta’
Stephen Weiss on Monday's Halftime Report chuckled that he's been long OCN and short OCN and made "much more money on the short side."
Judge said he remembers when people were pitching OCN "on the conference circuit."
Phil LeBeau aired a clip with Boeing's CEO (but didn't air the clip of the United Airlines dragging). Jim Lebenthal said he found BA "a little bit too pricey" at 182 but by no means would he short it.
After Donald Trump spoke, Joe said the panel's been "correct" in telling people to "stay" in financials. The funny thing is, by the end of the show, Judge was quoting Trump as talking about breaking up the big banks.
Stephen Weiss said it would take "years" to break up the big banks. Josh Brown advised, "Stop. Please, please, don't make changes to your portfolio based on things that get blurted out literally every 5 seconds of the day." (Well, it's not "literally" every 5 seconds, but …)
Joe Terranova said AAPL is going to the "beneficiary of a large repatriation" and said the "reality check" is that 5 tech companies dominate the S&P 500. (We're not sure how that's a "reality check" or anything new that people haven't already known for, oh, maybe a dozen years.)
Joe didn't seem inclined to let Jim finish a point about what matters on the AAPL conference call.
Jonathan Krinsky told Judge, "Health care actually performs very well in May," up 8 of the last 10 years.
Krinsky said the strength is "broad-based" and mentioned the XLV and halfheartedly suggested HUM and AET.
Joe got to mention SYK again.
Stephanie Link, on a video connection, pounded the table for DXC.
Josh Brown said he kinda looks at DNKN as a "utility" and suggested there's "huge expansion potential here." Jim Lebenthal noted DNKN only has 440 shops west of the Mississippi River. That's an argument we were hearing probably 5 years ago, when "Greece is the word" (sic) (Ugh) every 5 minutes on CNBC.
Steve Weiss backed NFLX on AAPL's report. Jim Lebenthal touted PFE's buyback. Josh Brown said to buy JPM "whenever algorithms sell it to you." Joe Terranova predicted a JNPR breakout over 32.
Mel uncorked a sleepy 5 p.m. Fast Money in which panelists fawned over Tesla.
Josh: No professional ‘literally’ practices the sell-in-May strategy
Jeremy Siegel joined Monday's Halftime Report and said the tech sector's P.E. is "very reasonable," but he said the market wants corporate tax reform and will be "very disappointed" if it doesn't happen this year.
Jeremy was rather sanguine about the state of the world. "I don't think Le Pen at all has a chance in the 2nd round," he said, adding he's "not fearing" a confrontation with North Korea.
Judge, back from a 2-week vacation, told the panel that the stats show that "sell in May" doesn't work in the first year of a presidency. Joe Terranova suggested it seems like a loopy strategy now. Josh Brown said no professional "literally" does that. Stephen Weiss said it's downright "crazy."
Much more from Monday's Halftime later.